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  Birth Control

  by turtleturtle in

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  i have never understood why, according to the wt, jws are okay (conscience matter) with birth control methods like the pill, mini-pill, depo-provera, and iuds.

  i am not trying to spark an abortion debate.

  but i was actually angry at the wt when i started researching how the mini-pill prevented pregnancy.

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  turtleturtle

  First off, YES I am against abortion and am proud of it! Over 50 million abortions have happened since 1973.
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  Birth Control

  by turtleturtle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have never understood why, according to the wt, jws are okay (conscience matter) with birth control methods like the pill, mini-pill, depo-provera, and iuds.

  i am not trying to spark an abortion debate.

  but i was actually angry at the wt when i started researching how the mini-pill prevented pregnancy.

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  turtleturtle

  The development of all the parts of an embryo begins at conception, when the ovum, or egg cell, of the woman is fertilized by a sperm cell of the man.

  This too indicates that according to the Bible, a child exists as a person from the time of his conception. Yes, that is when human life begins.

  http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102009202

  Hypocrites...
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  Birth Control

  by turtleturtle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have never understood why, according to the wt, jws are okay (conscience matter) with birth control methods like the pill, mini-pill, depo-provera, and iuds.

  i am not trying to spark an abortion debate.

  but i was actually angry at the wt when i started researching how the mini-pill prevented pregnancy.

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  turtleturtle

  Listen, I am just going by the WT standards. If I am not mistaken, the WT says life begins at conception. I don't see how they can make an IUD a conscience matter and make blood transfusions a DFing offense.
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  Birth Control

  by turtleturtle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have never understood why, according to the wt, jws are okay (conscience matter) with birth control methods like the pill, mini-pill, depo-provera, and iuds.

  i am not trying to spark an abortion debate.

  but i was actually angry at the wt when i started researching how the mini-pill prevented pregnancy.

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  turtleturtle

  yeah I know a MS wife who had the IUD.
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  Birth Control

  by turtleturtle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have never understood why, according to the wt, jws are okay (conscience matter) with birth control methods like the pill, mini-pill, depo-provera, and iuds.

  i am not trying to spark an abortion debate.

  but i was actually angry at the wt when i started researching how the mini-pill prevented pregnancy.

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  turtleturtle

  I have never understood why, according to the WT, JWs are okay (conscience matter) with birth control methods like the pill, mini-pill, Depo-Provera, and IUDs. I am not trying to spark an abortion debate. But I was actually angry at the WT when I started researching how the mini-pill prevented pregnancy. Research it for yourself! My spouse and I felt betrayed by the WT because they did not provide the proper spiritual food for us at the right time. I still remember praying and asking Jehovah for forgiveness for any life that was unknowingly aborted.

  So, the WT condemns those who accept a blood transfusion but make it a conscience matter to have an IUD which does the following:

  The IUD is generally accepted to work by causing the uterine lining (endometrium) to become incapable of accepting the implantation of an already fertilized ovum (i.e., a human embryo).

  From: http://www.canfp.org/artman/publish/article_330.shtml
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  Showed Spouse A Quote In the Bound Volume

  by turtleturtle in

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  2. experiences

  as part of family worship last night, i pulled out the bound volumes i have been harvesting from different sources lately and showed my spouse the following quote:.

  awake!1969 may 22 p.15 .

  "if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

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  turtleturtle

  thanks
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  Showed Spouse A Quote In the Bound Volume

  by turtleturtle in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as part of family worship last night, i pulled out the bound volumes i have been harvesting from different sources lately and showed my spouse the following quote:.

  awake!1969 may 22 p.15 .

  "if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

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  turtleturtle

  @ christ alone:

  How do I edit it? Its not that big of a deal.
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  Showed Spouse A Quote In the Bound Volume

  by turtleturtle in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as part of family worship last night, i pulled out the bound volumes i have been harvesting from different sources lately and showed my spouse the following quote:.

  awake!1969 may 22 p.15 .

  "if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

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  turtleturtle

  As part of family worship last night, I pulled out the bound volumes I have been harvesting from different sources lately and showed my spouse the following quote:

  Awake!1969 May 22 p.15
  "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!"

  The bound volumes have a bigger impact than the CDROM. To have that quote right in front of him/her in that 1969 volume was classic awesomeness. He/she has known that I have been into "apostate" material for about a year now. He/she is an awesome spouse because of not freaking out about it! Seriously, I could start fading tommorow and, while he/she wouldn't be happy, he/she also wouldn't plan WW3 over it. I asked her/him what he/she thought the quote meant. He/she stated that it means the FDS are simply imperfect men trying their best and at that time in history, that was their best.

  BTW: Im doing the whole him/her for anonymous reasons.
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  JWStruggle Apostasy Trial Videos Questions

  by turtleturtle in

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  2. experiences

  some questions for jwstruggle's apostasy trial videos:

  1) what the heck happened with your marriage?

  why did your wife divorce you?

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  turtleturtle

  Okay xelder...

  Can you provide a link where he discusses his life situation.
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  JWStruggle Apostasy Trial Videos Questions

  by turtleturtle in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  some questions for jwstruggle's apostasy trial videos:

  1) what the heck happened with your marriage?

  why did your wife divorce you?

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  turtleturtle

  Also, in the first part of video part 3, JWstruggle tried to argue something along the lines of: An old brother believes his dog will be resurected, so is he apostasizing? Whoa! Big difference between your situation and his. You have likely been SPREADING and/or promoting views different from official JW views. I am also betting that this is not the first time they have talked to you (2 or more brothers), regarding "apostate" views. I highly doubt that you were having casual views with JWs that also had concerns regarding the WT teachings, and that the next thing you knew you were in a judicial committee. If I am wrong, let me know.

  Remember, I am not approving of the way the WT handles committee matters.