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  Is this world ruled by Demons and are we?

  by Mindchild in

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  to me, one of the most pathetic and lamest of all watchtower teachings is the fantasy that satan and the demons rule the world.

  the witnesses are terrified of these demons getting into their minds through everything from wearing old clothes bought at the thrift store to smoking cigarettes (remember all drugs give demons easy access to your mind.).

  they would have you believe that each country on earth is controlled by really big mean and tough demons (hey demons cant be nice you know) and they are actively controlling the minds of the political leaders in a global chess game because they have nothing better to do.. i was wondering then if anyone can show me a single itsy bitsy tiny amount of evidence to show any credible physical evidence or logical/metaphysical reasoning to back the jw ideological boogey men.

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  Good does exist but good does not = God.
  Evil exists but it does not = Saten.

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  Is this world ruled by Demons and are we?

  by Mindchild in

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  to me, one of the most pathetic and lamest of all watchtower teachings is the fantasy that satan and the demons rule the world.

  the witnesses are terrified of these demons getting into their minds through everything from wearing old clothes bought at the thrift store to smoking cigarettes (remember all drugs give demons easy access to your mind.).

  they would have you believe that each country on earth is controlled by really big mean and tough demons (hey demons cant be nice you know) and they are actively controlling the minds of the political leaders in a global chess game because they have nothing better to do.. i was wondering then if anyone can show me a single itsy bitsy tiny amount of evidence to show any credible physical evidence or logical/metaphysical reasoning to back the jw ideological boogey men.

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  I was just having a discussion about this with my daughter tonight.

  All those years as a JW I suffered from needless superstition and fear of Satan and the Demons.
  It is amazing how much peace of mind I have had since leaving this religion!

  I was raised up to believe in an Almighty All PowerfulGod that watched everything I did.

  If I didn’t please him he was quick to show disapproval and if I didn’t straighten up quick I could loose my everlasting life.

  I was also taught that he loved me and was interested in me as an individual.

  At the same time I was taught that Satan and his demons were in control of this world.

  Satan and his demons were lurking around every corner just waiting to get control of us!

  We were paranoid of every thing.

  It seems that the only thing that the Almighty had control of was his visible earthly organization and the natural cycle of the universe.

  Well, finally after 34 year I woke up and realized that this” almighty” God does not have control of this organization.

  Then I start wondering why Adam and Eve have to suffer death for their sin and all of their offspring (the whole human race) has to suffer so badly when all the while Satan and his demons get a 6000 year party?

  Makes you wonder who is almighty Hugh?

  Anyway,
  We hold humans to a law much higher than what we expect of this Almighty God!!!

  When a human has it in their power to protect another and they choose not to they can be prosecuted for this negligence. They are held accountable and could even be imprisoned.

  But for some reason, the Almighty God we claimed to believe in has it in his power to save lives but he just sits up there and does nothing while thousands are crushed under the twin towers in NY.
  This is just one example of many.

  I am convinced there is no interactive almighty God.
  I am equally convinced there is no Satan and demons.

  I have done just about every thing that is supposed to invite them into my life and there is nothing but blissful silence and peace.

  For those who claim otherwise I just say, “The mind is a very powerful thing!”

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  Reply to James Bonnell

  by silentlambs in

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  as some of you may have noted james bonnell the local po here made a comment in the local paper.

  today i recieved this response in an email, i thought it was worth sharing.. silentlambs.

  the following is the exact email quoted below:.

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  As some of you may have noted James Bonnell the local PO

  So,if I understand this correctly,
  James Bonnell is the PO or presiding overseer,an elder.He is not a Circuit overseer.

  James said the following to the news paper,

  "This issue was brought up over a year ago, and Mr. Bowen has tried to keep it in the public eye,"

  Then James Bonnell says this to a victim of child molestation,
  

  "What is the big deal, it is not like you were raped or anything."

  This victims sister emailed Bill Bowen and exposed his attitude towards child abuse victims and now Bill is sharing this info to expose this elders attitude with all of us here.

  I think this is what Bill is trying to tell us.Bill correct me if I am wrong.

  I am disgusted at this elders true feelings and I am glad Bill is keeping this in the "public eye" because it is not just a one year old past problem as Mr Bonnell would have everyone to believe.
  This is a current problem with many victims.

  Keep exposing them Bill!!

  Ranchette
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  NEW LIGHT! Earthquakes-3-22-02 Awake!

  by messenger in

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  well we now have another ray of new light that has flashed forth.

  it is a new teaching regarding earthquakes.

  for close to eighty-five years now the core believe of jehovahs witnesses has been the last days teaching that earthquakes have increased in intensity and frequency since 1914. no longer, now it seems it has gone the way of the generation that would not die who were alive in 1914. now we have the great new discovery that there were not more or stronger earthquakes since 1914, almost 40 years after experts and many good men were disfellowshipped for saying otherwise.

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  Mindfield,

  Don't feel bad.

  I have been sucked into this trap more than once myself and I'm sure I will do it again.

  I think we all have.

  I just hope when I do someone will remind me of what's really going like I tried to do here.

  Okay, back to the original subject.

  I was disgusted when I read this article this morning.
  I shared it with my DF'd sister and she is equally sickened by it.

  This teaching was crammed down our throats all our lives and then we in turn went door to door shoveling this shit down the householder’s throats.

  Just think of how we would have felt if a householder said, "Well earthquakes have been happening all through history. Earthquakes are no special sign."

  We would have called them "ridiculers" and we would say they were fulfilling bible prophecy by saying these things!

  Watchtower can come out and contradict their teachings over and over and the rank and file just happily gulp it down.

  I did it too in the past.

  That's part of the reason it's so upsetting. It’s hard to accept how blind I was for so long.Also because of family and friends That I don't know how to wake up.

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  NEW LIGHT! Earthquakes-3-22-02 Awake!

  by messenger in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well we now have another ray of new light that has flashed forth.

  it is a new teaching regarding earthquakes.

  for close to eighty-five years now the core believe of jehovahs witnesses has been the last days teaching that earthquakes have increased in intensity and frequency since 1914. no longer, now it seems it has gone the way of the generation that would not die who were alive in 1914. now we have the great new discovery that there were not more or stronger earthquakes since 1914, almost 40 years after experts and many good men were disfellowshipped for saying otherwise.

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  Another great thread hijacked just as Fred planned from the start!!!

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  Celebrating One Full Year Of Freedom!

  by Ranchette in

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  i can't believe it but the first thursday of feb marked one full year of freedom for me and my children.. that thursday was the last meeting i ever attended.. we have never looked back and time has just gotten away from me because we are enjoying new experiences and trying to get used to this new life.

  i wonder what i should do to celebrate?.

  any suggestions?.

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  Hi everyone,

  This day has passed by and I've had time to read your suggestions.

  My family came home for the evening and I told them that this was our"ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OUT."

  I received their responses one by one.

  When I told my daughter she said “Hugh.” And then carried on with what she was doing.

  When I told my son he said “yea, I want to go to another karate class in the morning to get ready for my first test.”

  I was disappointed at first that my family didn’t share my excitement! Then I realized I
  really have reason to celebrate.

  Theyaretruly free. They could care less about what happened before.

  GREAT!
  They are living in the “now.”

  So,

  I had a bourbon and coke and reflected on the past year and all that we have been through and experienced as a family NO longer in slavery and

  I conclude,

  I have NO regrets.

  Ranchette
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  Celebrating One Full Year Of Freedom!

  by Ranchette in

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  i can't believe it but the first thursday of feb marked one full year of freedom for me and my children.. that thursday was the last meeting i ever attended.. we have never looked back and time has just gotten away from me because we are enjoying new experiences and trying to get used to this new life.

  i wonder what i should do to celebrate?.

  any suggestions?.

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  I can't believe it but the first thursday of Feb marked one full year of freedom for me and my children.

  That thursday was the last meeting I ever attended.

  We have never looked back and time has just gotten away from me because we are enjoying new experiences and trying to get used to this new life.

  I wonder what I should do to celebrate?
  Any suggestions?

  Ranchette
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  My wife's anxiety, guilt

  by ashitaka in

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  my wife has been depressed each time we see our jw friends.

  she doesn't want to see them anymore, because it reminds her of what she left behind, and it makes her feel bad.. i've offered to go back to meetings for a while to help her break away.

  she never wants to go back, but her guilt and anger make her so uncomfortable around active jw's.....it's really bothering her.. any good books out there on breaking away from controlling organizations, especially concentrating on keeping the friendships but not the allegiance to the organization in question?

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  Ashi,
  Sorry about what's happening here.
  But I believe these feelings are normal considering what we have all been through.
  I remember feeling just like this.
  We all need a circle of friends and a sense of belonging.
  We also need to feel that our lives have purpose.

  There has been lots of great input so far but I'll add my 2cents anyway.

  First there is another MUST read book I have to recomend.

  COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL by Steven Hassen

  Also religion is not the only sourse to meet these needs. There are many other ways to get what you need.It is dangerous to get involved too quickly with another one.
  You just freed yourselves so be careful not to become slaves again.

  But if you do decide to go with a church I am with Jukie on The Unitarian Unaversalist church.
  You are truly free to think and reason for yourself with UU instead of a rigid belief system found in so many religions.You don't even have to believe in God or the Bible.
  If there was one in my town I would go there sometimes.

  I ended up joining a club.

  We have a great time and do lots of volenteer work.
  I have had so many new experiences since joining.
  You can check with your county extension office to see what is available.

  If you have children put them in something extracurricular and it will be good for them plus you will all meet new people.

  You could also take some kind of classes your interested in.
  In fact that might be a good way for your wife to start branching out into her new and sometimes scary life.

  Ranchette
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  How many of you have kissed Hank's ass?

  by Kaethra in

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  im john, and this is mary.. mary: hi!

  he can do whatever he wants, and what he wants is to give you a million dollars, but he cant until you kiss his ass.

  me: do you know anyone who kissed hanks ass, left town, and got the million dollars?

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  I know I did for over 20+ years. I'm so ashamed!!!!

  I was raised as a JW.

  This is a humorous story but also very powerful!

  My husband claims that this story was a turning point for him.
  He read it around 1 1/2 years ago for the first time.

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  Phone Call From My Mother!

  by Ranchette in

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  the last time i spoke with my mom was the middle of october.

  i called her that time.. many of you are familiar with the relationship problems ive had with my parents since i quit going to meetings almost a year ago.

  for those of you who arent familiar with the situation, you can do a search by clicking on the paper icon under my name to read up on whats been going on.. anyway things were getting worse and worse and nothing good was coming from our discussions or letters.. since i was the one who called her last, i decided to see how long it would take for my parents to get a hold of me the next time.. my mom even told me in the past that she wanted to limit her association with me.

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  Stop only when she calls the cops.

  
  LOL Focus!

  Ranchette