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  New Baby

  by hippikon in

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  lyall james was born at 12pm today @ 8.1 lbs.

  mother is doing fine.

  bubs is in the icu with a breathing problem but should be fine.

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  Two sex questions

  by Seeker4 in

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  ok, have had enough to drink tonight so i will toss these two questions out.

  will discuss this a bit more tomorrow.. 1. how many of you had sex outside of your marriage after leaving the witnesses?

  provide whatever details about how and why that you're comfortable with.. 2. funny question: had a friend write me today that probably more jws per capita enjoyed oral sex the night they read it was a "conscience matter" than any other group in the us.

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  Jan,

  You are upfront and honest here on the board with the fact that you don't want to live a monogamous life.
  I respect that.
  There are lots of girls out there who feel the same way.
  I hope you are just as open with the women you get involved with as you are here.

  Xena,
  You have mentioned several times that you are in an open marriage.
  I know that it didn't start out that way so I was just courious,
  did you two have a talk and reevaluate your marriage and lay new ground rules?

  It sounds like it.
  I can respect this too.
  I just can't respect one person in the relationship changing the rules without the others knowledge.

  Does anyone understand any of this?

  Ranchette
  
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  Two sex questions

  by Seeker4 in

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  ok, have had enough to drink tonight so i will toss these two questions out.

  will discuss this a bit more tomorrow.. 1. how many of you had sex outside of your marriage after leaving the witnesses?

  provide whatever details about how and why that you're comfortable with.. 2. funny question: had a friend write me today that probably more jws per capita enjoyed oral sex the night they read it was a "conscience matter" than any other group in the us.

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  Seeker 4,

  I hope you understand that I am not trying to judge you. I’m letting you know how I personal feel and what I expect from marriage.
  I know these things happen and I would do every thing I could to forgive my mate if ever a situation like this happens. That’s what people do when they truly love one another.

  I just feel that if we decide that we want to experiment or change the rules of our original vows we should be open and honest from the start.
  If we don't really know what we want then say that.
  At least the other person would know the state of the relationship and can reevaluate the situation.

  It takes effort and self-discipline to honor the marriage vows.
  I would hate to spend years, as the faithful wife when all along or at different times in the marriage my mate wasn't.

  What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
  If he's committed I'm committed. If he's not then maybe I won't be either.
  What amazes me is the men who exercise their right to sexual freedom but won't allow this freedom or put up with it from the wife.

  Men aren't the only ones with rights and desires.
  Before doing this did you put yourself in her place?
  Try to imagine how you would feel if she did this to you.

  Are you ready to hear these following words coming from your wife's mouth?
  "It's so exciting when a handsome man who is a virtual stranger whispers in my ear, I want to suck your pussy."
  I don't believe you are.

  Before you are unfaithful you should ask your self if your willing to accept this behavior from her.

  You said,
  Part of the reason I brought this up so openly is that I found leaving the Witnesses made me question the whole idea of vowing ourselves into relationships that might be different with time than what we thought they were.

  I understand this.
  I have wondered if anything ever happened to my husband whether I'd want to get married again. Who knows I might want to remain free.

  I'm not saying a person should be stuck in a marriage just because they made a vow.
  I just believe in being honest and honoring vows and if at any point feelings change I want to know.

  You also said,
  But leaving the Witnesses left me with this incredible sense of life as an adventure, of an opportunity to say yes to a lot of things in life that I had always said no to.

  I understand these words very much and I even see how they apply in this situation. I have felt that way too.

  I am glad you two are communicating better and going to therapy.
  I truly wish you the best.
  I hope you understand where I’m coming from.
  This is an emotional issue.

  Ranchette
  
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  Two sex questions

  by Seeker4 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  ok, have had enough to drink tonight so i will toss these two questions out.

  will discuss this a bit more tomorrow.. 1. how many of you had sex outside of your marriage after leaving the witnesses?

  provide whatever details about how and why that you're comfortable with.. 2. funny question: had a friend write me today that probably more jws per capita enjoyed oral sex the night they read it was a "conscience matter" than any other group in the us.

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  Seeker4,

  Wow,what a confession!

  I have to respect that you are being up front on how this happened and why.

  Also because it sounds like you wouldn’t want to be treated this way by your wife shows you know it is wrong to do this when you promised to be faithful when you entered into this committed relationship.

  I think many of us have feared that we might have to face what your wife has now that the threat of loss of position and privileges is no longer an issue and no there’s no longer as much fear of a God with a bolt of lightning on the ready when Armageddon comes.

  I feel for your wife. I wouldn’t wish this pain on anyone.

  We all deal with our newfound freedoms in different ways. That’s our choice.
  There are consequences though and we have to live with ourselves after these choices.

  The bond of trust that you once shared is damaged.
  This may not be an issue with couples who have open relationships or decide together at some point in the relationship to make it an open one but it is an issue here in this case it seems.
  Yes some trust can be rebuilt but it will never be the same.

  I’m glad you want to stay with her. I truly hope things work out.

  I’m not so sure this situation is going to be as smooth as you hope.
  She needs reassurance of your love and that she’s still desirable to you.That’s probably what she’s going through now but she will go through several different stages in all this.

  From other experiences I’ve heard it can take quite abit of time.

  You have exciting memories of your escapades to reflect on but remember all she has is the knowledge that you broke the trust and you were with other women. Please be understanding.

  I wish you the best and please let us know what happens over time.
  Thanks for sharing.

  Ranchette
  
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  Mispronunciations at the meetings

  by TR in

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  moxy raised a point in the "exaggeration" thread that aggravated me at the meetings.

  mispronunciations.

  moxy mentioned the word 'hyperbole' as frequently being mispronounced.. another one that bugged me was 'epitome'.

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  Jehovah’s Witnesses- Jahoma Williams

  Hittites- High Titties

  Ask you a question- Ax you a qwerstion
  
  Pronunciation-Pro nonce iation

  Organism- Orgasam

  Abyss- a bisquit

  Sect – sex

  Reincarnation- a carnation

  We lived in the deep south. Can you tell?

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  How are Governing Body members chosen?

  by crownboy in

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  since it wouldn't make sense for the society to choose "orginal" (i.e.

  pre-1935) annointed ones for the gb because they're so old now, how do they choose the new ones?

  couldn't a "newer" annointed simply declare himself to be one just so he could get on the body?

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  Crownboy,
  Thought you might find this interesting.
  May 1 1992 the societey implemented new positions called Given Ones because the GB are dying off they say.
  These are members of the Great crowd that have the earthly hope.
  These guys serve with the GB and sit in on their meetings etc.

  You asked how the GB are chosen but this brings up another question.
  Why didn't they choose Annointed brothers to serve with the GB?There's thousands who claim to be a part of the annointed cong in congregations around the world.
  The annointed are supoposed to be despensing the food to the great crowd.
  Does this mean the society doesn't believe those people who partake are really annointed?
  I don't know the answers.Their behavior raises more than can be answered.Here's the article.

  *** w92 4/15 31 Announcement ***
  Announcement
  Assistance for Governing Body Committees
  The members of the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses, at present 12 in number, continue to serve faithfully in their assignments. They are always thankful to the loyal members of the increasing “great crowd” for their zealous support. (Revelation 7:9, 15) In view of the tremendous increase worldwide, it seems appropriate at this time to provide the Governing Body with some additional assistance. Therefore it has been decided to invite several helpers, mainly from among the great crowd, to share in the meetings of each of the Governing Body Committees, that is, the Personnel, Publishing, Service, Teaching, and Writing Committees. Thus, the number attending the meetings of each of these committees will be increased to seven or eight. Under the direction of the Governing Body committee members, these assistants will take part in discussions and will carry out various assignments given them by the committee. This new arrangement goes into effect May 1, 1992.
  For many years now, the number of the remnant of anointed Witnesses has been decreasing, while the number of the great crowd has increased beyond our grandest expectations. (Isaiah 60:22) How we thank Jehovah for this marvelous expansion! When the new name, Jehovah’s Witnesses, was gratefully accepted in 1931, the peak number of Kingdom publishers was 39,372, most of whom professed to be anointed brothers of Christ. (Isaiah 43:10-12; Hebrews 2:11) Sixty years later, in 1991, the worldwide peak of publishers was 4,278,820, of whom only 8,850 professed to be of the anointed remnant. As anticipated in the light of the Scriptures, the “great crowd” now outnumber the remnant of the “little flock” by more than 480 to 1. (Luke 12:32; Revelation 7:4-9) In caring for the expanding Kingdom interests, the remnant surely need and appreciate the cooperation and support of the great crowd.
  As explained in this issue of The Watchtower, there is a group serving with spiritual Israel today that is comparable to the Nethinim and the sons of the servants of Solomon who returned from Babylonian exile with the Jewish remnant; those non-Israelites even outnumbered the returning Levites. (Ezra 2:40-58; 8:15-20) “Given ones” from among today’s great crowd are mature Christian men who have had considerable experience as a result of caring for oversight in branches, in the traveling work, and among the 66,000 congregations now established throughout the earth.
  Recently, Kingdom Ministry Schools were held worldwide for the instruction of overseers and their assisting ministerial servants. In the United States alone, 59,420 overseers attended. These “older men” were thus equipped to fulfill their responsibilities more effectively.—1 Peter 5:1-3; compare Ephesians 4:8, 11.
  At the Brooklyn headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses, some “given ones” have served for a great many years. These include mature overseers from the great crowd who have gained a wealth of ability and experience. Thus, the Governing Body has selected a few of such overseers to assist in the meetings of the Governing Body’s committees. These are not necessarily the men with the longest record of service. Rather, they are mature, experienced men with qualifications that fit them for giving assistance in particular fields. Their being assigned to work with a committee does not give them a special status. As Jesus said concerning his disciples, “all you are brothers.” (Matthew 23:8) However, much will be entrusted to these men, and consequently “much will be demanded” of them.—Luke 12:48.
  We rejoice in the forward march of Jehovah’s organization today. Over the past ten years, there has been almost a 100 percent increase in the number of those ministering in the field, in line with the prophecy concerning the Greater David, Jesus Christ: “Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end.” (Isaiah 9:7, King James Version) In the same way that the Nethinim worked alongside the priests in repairing the walls of Jerusalem, so today the prophecy concerning Jehovah’s organization is being fulfilled: “And foreigners will actually build your walls.” (Isaiah 60:10; Nehemiah 3:22, 26) The modern-day Nethinim are to be commended for the zeal that they show in building up true worship, assisting “the priests of Jehovah” in whatever work or service may be assigned in Jehovah’s worldwide organization.—Isaiah 61:5, 6

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  The word Up-Building and Mind Control

  by D wiltshire in

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  what a powerful tool the word "upbuilding" is.. can you think of the many different ways that word helps people stay in mind control?

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  Dwilt,

  If you are told to think up building thoughts and if you are also told to only speak up building things then you are boxed into a fantasy never allowing yourself to see reality because the focus is not on truth but trying to make sure every thought and word is positive.

  The words up building also come into play when you are trained to only listen to up building things. Truth can’t filter through when walls fly up every time something is judged as not uplifting.

  Truth and reality are not always up building and positive.

  These examples show how a person can be trained to control their thoughts, words and what they hear.This is clearly a form of mind control in my opinion.

  Is this kinda what your looking for?

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  Young People Ask book

  by crownboy in

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  how many of you guys really believed and took to heart every word that was written in it?

  i was recently rereading it and it was ridiculous how sophomoric and unrealistic some of the answers to the questions were (e.g.

  when you have the urge to engage in the "sin" of masterbation you should pray to god untill the urge goes away.

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  RunningMan,

  LOL,
  Good grief!!
  I'm suprised he didn't cover the dangers of a girl sitting on a washing mashine during the spin cycle or riding on motercycles(especially Harleys).

  I hope the guys in Brooklyn don't hear about this guy or he will be the next new GB member!
  Sadly we have had some GB members in the past alot like this guy.
  This thread gets better all the time.

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  Update On My Sister

  by Ranchette in

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  my sister was homeless for the second time in one month and my husband and i spent all week on the phone, computer and otherwise trying to find help for her or just figure out what to do.

  we couldn't support another person.. the original story and thread on this is at * http://www.jehovahswitness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=12492&site=3.

  anyway i feel much better now knowing things are looking better.. we drove to st louis sunday moved her out of that families home and put all her stuff in storage.. i did not know this but st louis has around 45,000 bosnian immigrants.. my sister became friends with some of them and one of the guys has offered to let her stay at his place for a couple of weeks.. we met him and saw his apt.

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  My sister was homeless for the second time in one month and my husband and I spent all week on the phone, computer and otherwise trying to find help for her or just figure out what to do. We couldn't support another person.
  The original story and thread on this is at * http://www.jehovahswitness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=12492&site=3

  Anyway I feel much better now knowing things are looking better.
  We drove to St Louis Sunday moved her out of that families home and put all her stuff in storage.

  I did not know this but ST Louis has around 45,000 Bosnian immigrants.
  My sister became friends with some of them and one of the guys has offered to let her stay at his place for a couple of weeks.
  We met him and saw his apt. He was very nice and clean cut. I just hope for the best.
  This is so much nicer and quieter than where she was. It’s all we could find on such short notice.
  Anyway I brought her a care pkg and we left her some money too.

  We had a talk with her about how ridiculous it is to try to hang on to a new truck when you are homeless and can’t keep up the insurance payments on it.
  The thing ate three weekly paychecks every month! She has to let it go. She has no credit anyway so any loss there.
  My husband bought her a car today that is fuel-efficient and only requires liability.
  Now she can start looking for a more permanent living situation with the money she will save on those stinking truck payments.
  She will have to adjust to the idea of driving an un-cool car."Beggers can't be choosers."
  We told her “just finish college and you will be able to drive just about any thing you want”
  We are supposed to finalize all this next week.

  I want to thank everyone for the emotional support and emails.
  I know there’s more bumps ahead but I feel like were helping her get somewhere.
  I’ll keep you posted.

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  My niece's change of heart.....

  by Tatiana in

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  in my never-ending task of trying to get my niece out of jws clutches, i have good news.

  just a brief history.

  my lifetime jw mom raised my niece from the age of 9 due to my sister's alcohol and drug abuse.

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  April,
  I'm thrilled to hear this news too!
  Keep us posted on her "progress."

  You said,
  never did I think that one day I'd be "working" to get someone OUT, instead of IN!

  I understand how weird this feels.

  I call what we are doing REVERSE FIELD SERVICE
  Just think most of us put in more time than we ever did as JWs.Some are putting in pioneer hrs doing this.

  We now know what it TRULY feels like to be motivated from the heart and not from guilt and fear!

  Ranchette