Chasson,
I have a bottle of Louis Jadot 2000 BEAUJOLAIS-VILLIAGES.
Will that do?
Ranchette
it's time for the 'beaujolais nouveau'.
not really a good wine but with three or four friends ??.
drinking, laughing, singing all night long ;-).
Chasson,
I have a bottle of Louis Jadot 2000 BEAUJOLAIS-VILLIAGES.
Will that do?
Ranchette
i want to send lots of christmas greetings cards this year.
i especially want to send a card to dozens of posters from this site.
i suppose the obvious answer is that folks email me with an address.
OH I'm so excited!
I want to be on the list too.
I want to send everyone cards so email me your address or hopfully eman will provide us with a list.
Ranchette
in the spirit of e-man's post earlier - i had planned on sending out ecards this year to all of you.
after the rants regarding the junk mail emails - i decided to send them only to those who want one :o).
please either post below, or send me an email letting me know if it is ok to send a card to you.. [email protected].
Closer,
I would love to have a Christmas e-card from you.
Sweet of you to think of us.
Thanks in advance.
Ranchette
i feel cheated because i wouldnt know what its like to experience pregnancy and the birth of my children the way it was meant to be.. a completely natural and joyous event in human life was sabotaged by this religion!.
im sure there are others who know what i mean.. i would be interested to hear stories of others who have had children both inside and out of this organization.. i would like to explain what i mean.. i was raised as a witness and was always expected to be an example.
from as far back as i can remember we were taught that armageddon was just around the corner.
Andee,
Your stepfather sounds just like my mother.
She has prophesied that my children are doomed to death more than once in the last few months!
Hearing what you did is very painful too.
These people are supposed to be our support system!
Ranchette
hi i know i read the "should i own a cat" article here a few months ago.
it was new to me but others seemed familiar with it.
could someone direct me to where is, i have tried searching under cat.
Hungry4life,
Please keep us posted on this.
This is great news!
Ranchette
i just read this article in the chicago sun times.
when i started reading the parents were religious and then saw home-schooling, i had a gut feeling they were jw's.
i read on and found out i was right.
Mulan,
After reading your post I'm wondering what the hell they need a liaison committee for if all there going to tell them to allow a transfusion for a minor because they'll do it anyway?! The parents could have done that.
This is not what these guys were instructed to say. I wonder if this committee ever got in trouble for this?
Now back to the original subject,
I don't know what to say about this story that hasn’t already been said.
I get sicker when I imagine the JWs that will stand up and testify in this couples behalf!!
They do it for molesters so why not murderers?
My husband was abused physically by his JW parents. I’m talking beatings not spankings!
I just mention this because people want to act like physical abuse is uncommon with JWs. I've known of many many cases over the years. Its just death as a result that is most uncommon.
When our parents read a WT article like the one above they would crack down on us and we got our butts whooped with WT's blessing and encouragement more often for awhile.
Sadly, I wouldn't doubt if this isn't what helped to escalate this tragedy.
Petty,
My mother used to tell me the stoning story too and I used to think she would have stoned us if the society ordered it.
This is a form of abuse too. Mental and emotional.
Ranchette
http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,3604,589031,00.html.
british muslims certainly don't generally reject the fundamentals of our society as part of their creed.
compare and contrast jehovah's witnesses.
I'm just trying to get this link to work.
* http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0%3604%589031%00.html
Ranchette
hi i know i read the "should i own a cat" article here a few months ago.
it was new to me but others seemed familiar with it.
could someone direct me to where is, i have tried searching under cat.
Is this it?
* http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=12465&site=3#149639
Ranchette
i feel cheated because i wouldnt know what its like to experience pregnancy and the birth of my children the way it was meant to be.. a completely natural and joyous event in human life was sabotaged by this religion!.
im sure there are others who know what i mean.. i would be interested to hear stories of others who have had children both inside and out of this organization.. i would like to explain what i mean.. i was raised as a witness and was always expected to be an example.
from as far back as i can remember we were taught that armageddon was just around the corner.
I just wanted to thank everyone for their comments so far because ALL of them help to bring home the point I'm trying to make here.I
started thinking back and it all seems so twisted now.
How did we ever go along with this stuff?
Never again for me!
I will do everything in my power to protect my family from going through what we did.
LDH,
I just wanted to say I'm sorry about your situation too and under the circumstances and for you and your babies sakes I'm glad you are steering clear of your mother right now.
Joy,
I'm glad you bucked the system and made the choices you did.
You told me to be the mother I never had.
That is exactly what I'm doing.I am really enjoying my kids now instead of looking at them as an obstical in the way of my service to God.
I understand about looking at all that wasted time and attention that we could have put in to our kids but we can't change the past so we just have to move foward as you said with our children.
Like you I feel my relationship with them is much better now.
Venice,
I know you guys have pain also because of what this organization does to families. I hope things change for the better soon.
Ranchette
i feel cheated because i wouldnt know what its like to experience pregnancy and the birth of my children the way it was meant to be.. a completely natural and joyous event in human life was sabotaged by this religion!.
im sure there are others who know what i mean.. i would be interested to hear stories of others who have had children both inside and out of this organization.. i would like to explain what i mean.. i was raised as a witness and was always expected to be an example.
from as far back as i can remember we were taught that armageddon was just around the corner.
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After being so awful and non supportive of me during my pregnancy with my daughter my mother in-law had the nerve to want to present herself in my hospital room while I was in labor.
I said absolutely not! She wasn't there when I needed her and now she's in my face. She makes me nervous anyway.
She has never forgiven me for this and doesn't understand why I was so mean to her?[8>]
I don't regret that decision.It was my right.
We enjoyed our new baby and settled into an only one-child mindset.
I started regular pioneering when she was 3yrs old. She was a people person and loved it (strange child).
Almost a year into my pioneering I came up pregnant again.
The Society wasn’t harping on this the way they did when I was pregnant the first time but the understanding was the same but the pressure just wasn’t as bad.
I decided to continue pioneering. Sadly I miscarried that child.
That’s a whole other subject so all I’ll say about that is it was devastating mentally, physically and emotionally to both my husband and me.
The coldness of JW family and friends was unbearable during this loss!
They all just basically pretended nothing had happened no condolences or anything!
I got the feeling they all thought it was all for the best.
This was very hurtful too.
I recovered and continued pioneering and went to pioneer school a few weeks later.
Within three months I was pregnant again! No one believed it was an accident so again I was made to feel like a criminal for something was supposed to be a happy and normal occurrence.I cant'help it if I'm Fertal Mertal!
I am not relating these things for sympathy. I just want people to see how wrong and unnatural this religion is.
Never ever let a religion get into your personal life!
If they try they are probably are a cult.
Also relating these things reinforces in me a self-confidence that I’m on the right track now.
Ranchette