i read with great interest the scanned pages that were shown on the other thread.
i really want to get a copy of this book for myself.
here's a direct quote from the chapter about satan and his deeeminz:
I read with great interest the scanned pages that were shown on the other thread. I really want to get a copy of this book for myself.
Here's a direct quote from the chapter about Satan and his deeeminz:
"For example, the demons like it when a boy and a girl play with each other's penis and vulva. We don't want to make the demons happy, do we?"
I really want a copy to peruse at my leisure.....
inform my jw parents of my official stance on "the path they tried to teach us when we were young girls.
" <---(oft-used phrase to try to "guilt" us into coming back as jw's)
it'll be a first and a definite shocker coming from the likes of me...i usually avoid all religious discussion/confrontation on the few occasions i've visited them.
by their masters at Watchtower headquarters
Excellent choice of words. Sums it up exactly.
After a while we can adapt to the fact that essentially we have no parents (or whoever the relatives are). It creates a hole in you, but pretty soon you learn to work around it. And that right there proves that their shunning doesn't work. We don't have to feel "cowed" into returning to their controlling, mind-numbing, heartless "religion".
This too is true. I think I've been slowly distancing myself for some years now. I think I will start lessening contact with the other relatives as well (not that they're seen on a regular basis anyway)--it's funny how even the most inactive, double-life-leading of them will regard you from a distance once you either get DF'd, or reveal your real stance on the org. It's strange--the longer I am out of the org, the less time I desire to spend with any of them or talk with them.
Lisa, I can share the letter via email, or whichever way you'd prefer. (don't have much experience with the private message feature here) I'd also be interested in seeing other letters, if you don't mind sharing.
There's some minor tweaking to be done to some parts--but I will keep y'all posted when I send it.
inform my jw parents of my official stance on "the path they tried to teach us when we were young girls.
" <---(oft-used phrase to try to "guilt" us into coming back as jw's)
it'll be a first and a definite shocker coming from the likes of me...i usually avoid all religious discussion/confrontation on the few occasions i've visited them.
Inform my JW parents of my official stance on "the path they tried to teach us when we were young girls." <---(oft-used phrase to try to "guilt" us into coming back as JW's)
It'll be a first and a definite shocker coming from the likes of ME...I usually avoid all religious discussion/confrontation on the few occasions I've visited them. I've written a nice, pointed letter--I left out the UN, cult mention, and the pedophile issues. I emphasized the Prodigal Son story (my sister is DF'd) and the blood issue. I emphasized my personal relationship with God, my prayers to Him to find the truth (I don't belong to any church), and basically.....compassion and humanity for others who share this planet with us.
Most pointedly, I detailed examples of "worldly" folk like my inlaws whose daughter made the same mistakes my DF'd sister made and whose churches rallied around all the families affected and showered them with love and forgiveness. I contrasted this with the whole "Judicial Committee" process and subsequent shunning my sis went through.
It's all written very respectfully, yet firmly. The days of feeling guilty because of always being fed the "martyr" bit are OVER. They can take it for what it is, or cut off all contact with me forever. My dad may try this trick to try to remind me of who's always wielded control. My answer to that is--BR ING. IT. ON.
I've already accepted in my heart that my family will probably never again spend time together under the same roof. If they choose to shun me forever, well, that is THEIR CHOICE. They are certainly "giving an effective witness" to my inlaws, that's for sure.
I wait with bated breath for the consequences.....
i dont know if im putting this in the rite place.... .
when a young jw teen ( 13-16) disassociates themselves, or is disfellowshipped, will the parents kick them out of the house?
or are they required to let them stay?
Me: I love you
Mom or Dad: *click*
It's shit like this that BURNS ME UP
AAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
does anyone have any info on how to go about doing this?
i don't own a home or anything much, nor any type of huge estate with precious valuables.
i have no idea of the cost or the process.
Thanks so much for your replies. They are really very helpful. My sister is DF'd with an 8-year-old, and I've been trying to push her to make one. So this info will help her too.
I know for a certainty, without a doubt, that my father will let my kid die without a blood transfusion. I don't mention my mother because she has no control nor say-so in anything--my dad has all the control. He's been an elder for about a trillion years. Die-hard, staunch, and hard-core. Like I said, there are maaaaany other issues as well--including the fact that my mother is speeding toward a nervous breakdown. It's not a question of IF, but WHEN.
My husband will be an excellent dad; he also has a very loving, close-knit, supportive family (I consider them more my family than my own, sad, huh) to help him if it were I who met with demise. I'm worried about if something happens to both of us.
Yes, it is indeed better to be safe than sorry. I don't like to think about dying but when JW issues are involved, I have to take action.
I'm not even due till January and already stuff like this is keeping me up nights. Thanks again. I don't know what I'd do without you guys!!!
does anyone have any info on how to go about doing this?
i don't own a home or anything much, nor any type of huge estate with precious valuables.
i have no idea of the cost or the process.
Does anyone have any info on how to go about doing this?
I don't own a home or anything much, nor any type of huge estate with precious valuables. I have no idea of the cost or the process.
All I know is that I don't want my JW parents to raise my child in any shape, form, or fashion (there are other issues that reach far beyond them just being JWs), and that I don't want a JW funeral---in case of my demise.
Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
hey smurf lovers!.
http://www.smurfs.com/.
you jws in good standing had better not click on it!!
Love Love LOVE the finger-wagging smiley!!!
as i was growing up in the troof.
there were sayings used over and over again to control my behaviour.
the biblical on bad associations spoil useful habits and another on just because everyone else does it doesnt mean you have to do it to, would you jump off a cliff just because other people do what were the sayings that bugged you?
Crappity-crap! A couple more:
"Counsel"..."Counseled"...."In counsel"...being "counseled"
"Biblical admonition"
"We would do well to heed the Bible's wise counsel..."
as i was growing up in the troof.
there were sayings used over and over again to control my behaviour.
the biblical on bad associations spoil useful habits and another on just because everyone else does it doesnt mean you have to do it to, would you jump off a cliff just because other people do what were the sayings that bugged you?
Gads!!!
How I forget that all-time youth classic,
"LIVING A DOUBLE LIFE"?!?!?
.
i'm just curious about this, and the prison baptisms---never knew much about it.
thanks in advance.
Wasn't there a convention in some prison a long time ago? I may be thinking of an old Awake! volume I was reading? Do they still hold those?
Also, are there inmate elders and such. What I mean is, can an inmate (say, sentenced to life in prison w/no parole) rise to the rank of elder within the prison? Also, once an baptized inmate gets out (say, paroled after 30 years for example) does he just go and be part of the local congregation?
This is a whole other realm of the JW's I know nothing about. Thanks for your answers.
