I assume that $45 million sale price quoted in the article is Jamaican dollars, which is equivalent to around US$370,000. (At least according to a currency converter on the net.)
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Article from Jamaica: Jehovah's Witnesses' properties for sale - Rising costs force religious group to go small
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/news/20160410/jehovahs-witnesses-properties-sale-rising-costs-force-religious-group-go-small jehovah's witnesses' properties for sale - rising costs force religious group to go small.
sunday | april 10, 2016 | 12:00 am by erica virtue.
norman grindley.
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Tell me what you think.
by Aroq inok, i'm willing, and thinking about going to the meetings, but there is a catch.
i'm not, nor ever be a jw.
i know too much about their beliefs.
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shepherdless
Hi Aroq,
if your situation is vaguely like mine, I would say no. Don't go. If necessary, check jw.org clandestinely, so you have knowledge of what nonsense they are going to be told at each meeting.
My wife is an ardent JW (and lost cause) who also takes the kids to KH. I never attend. Instead I teach my kids maths and science where possible, help them with their homework, etc. I also have made sure they have good access to books and the internet. My oldest knows heaps about evolution, dna, carbon dating, abiogenesis, quantum mechanics, multiverses, ancient history, church history, periodic table, electrical circuits and electronics etc.
My tactic seems to be working. My kids seem to have picked up that most JW's know virtually nothing about those topics, whereas they learn a bit from me, learn a bit more at school, and learn a bit elsewhere, and it is all coherent. One of my kids (primary school age) said something the other day along the lines that Elders are uneducated people. At least 2 of my kids accept evolution is a fact.
I don't know your situation, but I suspect that if you refuse to go, and are the one to teach your kids stuff (tiny non-controversial bits at a time) your kids will soon be thinking that daddy is not the ignorant one. You will also be teaching them that they don't have to pander to nonsense.
Anyway, that is my 2c worth.
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The Watchtower Society’s 607 BCE Foundation Exposed
by Doug Mason inthe governing body and its watchtower society claims that in 1919 it was appointed by jehovah god and jesus christ to represent all of their earthly kingdom interests, to be their unique voice and sole representative towards all people on earth.
the watchtower’s authority lives or dies with that claim..
the society’s critical date of 1919 is calculated from the dates of events in the 6th century bce.
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shepherdless
Hi Doug,
Essentially, my point is that the chronology chart on page 32 has 537 BC occurring before 539 BC (ie in between Oct 607 BC and Oct 539 BC). Either that is a mistake, or the chart can't be called a chronology.
Cheers
Shepherdless
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The Watchtower Society’s 607 BCE Foundation Exposed
by Doug Mason inthe governing body and its watchtower society claims that in 1919 it was appointed by jehovah god and jesus christ to represent all of their earthly kingdom interests, to be their unique voice and sole representative towards all people on earth.
the watchtower’s authority lives or dies with that claim..
the society’s critical date of 1919 is calculated from the dates of events in the 6th century bce.
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shepherdless
I had a quick read. I will read it a bit more thoroughly, a bit later. Well done, and well presented.
Minor point; there appears to be an error in the summary chart on page 32.
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What was jesus doing for the first 30 years of his life?
by atomant in30 years is a long time in the life of a human yet little is written about this time frame,l wonder why?
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Side question from a non-JW: What has Jesus being doing for the last 102 years? -
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Religion, a part of the American way of Life.
by Gorbatchov infound this picture on the twitter account and it makes a wider perspective to me.. the jw religion is so part of the american way of life, just like the other religions in the us.. in the jw growth rate country's there is a market for this "better" life.
the religion makes it possible.. western europe had that marketing mix need after world war 2 and maybe a part of the cold war.. see the picture, and you know, the similarities with the jw religion, the change will be in details and not fundamental.. gorby.
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Further to what SBF says, quoting from page 3 of the Pew Report of 12 May 2015:
[T]he percentage of adults (ages 18 and older) who describe themselves as Christians has dropped by nearly eight percentage points in just seven years, from 78.4% in... 2007 to 70.6% in 2014.
So in 7 years, the number of Christians in USA dropped by 10%. It is such a major change, that I am surprised more people haven't mentioned it. If that rate were to continue, USA will have a majority of unbelievers in around 20 years.
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Evolution vs Creationism.
by Labate inperhaps this has been discussed in the past, but i can't help noticing that on many posts creation vs evolution seems to equal theist vs atheist.
granted, a creationist by defination would have to believe in a creator.
on the other hand, believing in evolution doesn't automatically make one an atheist, a small point perhaps, but i think it would be more accurate to say believer vs nonbeliever.. just sayin'..
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Landy,
My understanding is pretty much what Vidiot states. There was still the concept of "original sin" though, which may seem contradictory.
I have difficulty explaining it now, because I have not believed any of it for a very long time.
Edit: I did not see Landy's last post, before posting.
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Evolution vs Creationism.
by Labate inperhaps this has been discussed in the past, but i can't help noticing that on many posts creation vs evolution seems to equal theist vs atheist.
granted, a creationist by defination would have to believe in a creator.
on the other hand, believing in evolution doesn't automatically make one an atheist, a small point perhaps, but i think it would be more accurate to say believer vs nonbeliever.. just sayin'..
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shepherdless
Landy:
So I'm not sure you can be a (proper) Christian and believe in evolution.
I was born into and grew up in a strict Catholic family, taught by priests and nuns, etc. There was never any objection to the concept of evolution. In fact, we were taught that it was an error to try to read the bible as a book of science, or as a book of history, or that there was an actual garden of Eden. All those stories had messages in them to tease out. Put another way, I was taught that to read Genesis literally, was to miss the point of the message of being a Christian.
So I have to disagree.
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TheNew World Society in Action....
by Lostandfound inback in the early 60s the phrase .
"the new world society..." was used a lot to promote assemblies and even congregations.
of course no new world has come but that saying appears to have been quietly buried along with any hope of a new world..
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Landy - New Order were the renamed Joy Division after Curtis committed suicide
Actually it was the other way around. "Joy Division" became "New Order", one of the greatest bands of the 80s, but one of the most boring, live.
I think the phrase "New World Order" came from a HG Wells book.
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Ekala Convention Hall To be Sold - Sri Lanka
by Sanath insri lanka has only one convention hall which is situated at 44, agaraduguru mawatha,ekala,ja-ela wp.
this was built on some where around 1990's.
now the sri lanka branch committee has decided to sale the property.what is the reason behind this??????????????
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shepherdless
According to yearbooks, Sri Lanka had a respectable 3% growth last year, and 4% the year before.
WTBS must still be having cashflow issues. When a large corporation is having cashflow issues, the outer branches typically suffer the most. Sri Lanka is probably an outer branch as far as Brooklyn is concerned.