Posts by FayeDunaway

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I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!

by Kulotti79 in

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hello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??

and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.

lol.

FayeDunaway

This entire forum, and a hundred like it, are dedicated to help people trying to recover from experiences such as mentioned above, just by letting people talk about what they've gone through trying to get out of it...and also people come here for support while they are trying to get out of it.

2 things I notice about your questions is that you don't like people knowing all your business, and you don't like cult like mentalities. That's what this particular religion is SO like. I know the person studying with you must be really a nice person. Most of them are really good people. It's just that this religion that controls them can also make them like heartless robot like creatures when the circumstances change.

I grew up witness, and because I decided to change my religion and become just a regular Christian, I lost my family. Not because they wanted to, but the organization tells them that they shouldn't speak to me.

I would be be very nice to this person that has been studying with you, but tell them this is not for you. They will try to gloss over things and make them seem rosy, but believe me, this is real.

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I Feel So Much More Intelligent Now

by OneFingerSalute in

well i must say that after the serve us meeting tonight i feel so much more intelligent.

almost as if i had four years of college condensed into ten minutes.. that is what was spent going on about how to use the glossary in the back of the "wonderful" new revised bible.

we got a crash course on how to look up the words listed alphabetically.

FayeDunaway

Thank you for answering my questions...I hadn't even known about the new bible. Are deep studying and hard liner witnesses digging it? I just want to know if this increases my chances of getting my extended family back or not :-/ I need to get my hands on one of these somehow....

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I have no Real Friends!

by stuckinarut2 in

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friends

i have come to a startling and sad realisation!.

i have no real friends!.

i have always been extremely active in every aspect of the org, since childhood.

FayeDunaway

You need to remember all the friends over the years who have fallen away or gotten df'd...find them in Facebook! This happened to me. Now I don't really have any witness friends, they are all people I grew up with who left along the way...and they are the best friends. We have so much fun together. We meet and have girlfriend days, and it's amazing how much more at peace and less angry and bitter they are now that they have left the org. So hunt them down and you will all be happy to be back together.

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Rev 17:9 - Thoughts?

by leaving_quietly in

rev 17:9 describes something about the "woman", the harlot, babylon the great:.

here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: the seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top.

and there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while.. i was dreaming about this verse last night, so i thought i'd look it up.

FayeDunaway

Londo111, Im right there with you. Jws and cults love talking about the weird stuff. Most Christians talk about what matters.

i spent some time wondering what Babylon the great really meant, and came to the conclusion it meant Rome, but I'm not completely convinced that's right. there have been many theories over the centuries. I've heard America, or Catholicism or Rome, predominately.

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THIS IS A FUN QUIZ: Test your deep knowledge of Jehovah's Witnesses

by TerryWalstrom in

this is a pop quiz.

this quiz will test your deep knowledge of jehovah's witnesses.. the question will be immediately followed by the source of the answer and the answer itself.. please test yourself by stopping after the question and thinking about how you would answer.

before reading the answer.

FayeDunaway

951 MILLION $ ANNUAL revenue??? I had no idea! Bet they can't wait to reach that billion mark, huh?

My goodness that's eye opening.

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I Feel So Much More Intelligent Now

by OneFingerSalute in

well i must say that after the serve us meeting tonight i feel so much more intelligent.

almost as if i had four years of college condensed into ten minutes.. that is what was spent going on about how to use the glossary in the back of the "wonderful" new revised bible.

we got a crash course on how to look up the words listed alphabetically.

FayeDunaway

Seems just a few years ago they came out with the paper cover black one...what is with the new grey one? Why? What were their selling points about it?? Is it that they use simpler, more modern words? This is a big deal. Are there many changes in the actual wording of the verses? Have they gone even further from the oldest copies of scripture now? have they really changed it to more support their own ideology? I need to know!! I remember with the paperback black one they took out the parentheses for a scripture I think in Colossians where it says Jesus created all things...in the old edition they had added '(other) things' , and in the newer addition had changed it to 'other things'...suggesting they hadn't made any changes to the original texts!

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Thought I would introduce myself

by WateredDown in

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friends

i have read the site with great interest over the last few weeks.

some interesting stuff thats for sure.. i have left the jehovah's witnesses (was almost going to say the 'truth') for some time now.

i was one of the lucky ones that was baptised then faded, no humiliating disfellowshipping but nonetheless was very hard to get myself out.

FayeDunaway

Steve2, that's so true. Put in your 2 hours on Saturday, answer your one or two times on Sunday, give your talk a couple times a year, go to the assemblies. All the rest of the time it was super shallow talk about vacations and mountain biking or hockey, there was a burgeoning population of 'foodies' in my former hall, pleasure seekers. But when you can't talk about really meaningful things and how you really feel, and don't try to spend any time really improving the world, what is there but pleasure.

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I can't participate with a game because... JW

by Sir cid fatos in

hey guys.

i, as a muslim, play with two other muslim play together soccer with jw friends (we play against other jw's).

really nice guys!

FayeDunaway

Ser cid.....your friends, they were being liberal to play soccer with you, because you are what the witnesses call 'worldly'....you are not one of them, you are Muslim. Then their more conservative witness friends came along and say 'they are worldly and not good association for us, they are different and we are supposed to only associate with witnesses.' And then you are out of the soccer games. This is because their religion tries to control everything, like who they spend their free time with. It's maybe like if you had friends who were Jewish, and your other friends who are stricter Muslim don't appreciate this and want them off the team.

All religions have extremists, and these other witnesses are more extreme. Lucky are the children whose parents are not extreme!

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Hi everyone, this is my first post.

by John Aquila in

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hey everyone, this is my first post.

i was contacted by the witnesses in1965, baptized in that same year at age 15. i was appointed an elder in 1975 and served as an elder for 20 years..

it hasnt been long since i learn ttatt and when i totally woke up.

FayeDunaway

Hi john, nice to meet you! I'm new here too. I feel bad for your tranny friend, it's a rough life. I just hope he remembers his own problems and is a little nicer when judging others, tho. Maybe running into you will help him remember that. At that moment you had a lot more on him than he had on you!

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Questions from a non-catholic

by Sir cid fatos in

hello guys.

since i have few jw friends i thought a lot of jehova witnesses.

they are all nice guys.

FayeDunaway

I think that everyone who accepts the New Testament accepts that with Jesus came a different way of thinking. The Mosaic Law was from the Old Testament and included a lot of rules about how the Jews were supposed to live. The Pharisees were the religious leaders of that time, and over the centuries expanded this list much more than was written in the Bible we see. By the time Jesus came, he became disgusted with this set of rules, and tried to tell the people they did not have to be so strict. Many of those rules were about the Sabbath and what constituted Work. The Pharisees followed Jesus around and tried to catch him doing something wrong on the sabbath. When he healed people on the sabbath, for example, they got very upset and called it work.

The Old Testament applied to a different time. After Jesus came and died for us, people no longer had to make sacrifices at the temple. Jesus sacrifice was once for all time, all the forgiveness we would need, if we just believe in him. Many of the rules they used to follow took early Christians a long time to let go, including that it was ok to eat pork. people who were not born Jewish were becoming Christians, and these people ate other kinds of meats, and since no one needed to be under the old Hebrew rules anymore, they did not have to stop eating them. You should read in your Bible starting at Matthew, and if you are very interested in this particular subject, skip to Acts.

So yes, Christians accept both old and new testaments, but we realize there have been many changes since the old, including a relationship with God based not on works and if we are following the rules carefully enough, but thankfulness for his love to us. Check out some other Christians besides the witness friends you have, because witnesses are nice people, but how they interpret the Bible is more focused on the Old Testament based on rule following and their love for him is often genuine but a little messed up and confused by men telling them what to believe and how exactly to do everything they do.

I'm really sorry about the loss of your grandfather. Grandfathers are wonderful. Sure wish I still had mine around.