Posts by FayeDunaway

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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?

by Village Idiot in

when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.

soon i came to the realization that there were many more.

we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.

FayeDunaway

My guess is 1 to 2 percent underground apostates coming with their wives or husbands (mostly wives).

25 percent have SERIOUS doubts about beliefs but figure where else are they going to go, and leaving is way too messy, and society might be right anyway, who knows. These may eventually come around at some point in their lives to being apostate.

50 percent on top of that have some doubts. The society is imperfect humans, but the truth is definitely there.

and less than 25 percent are true believers and suck up anything the WTBS says.

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How to get my kids out

by SaneAgain in

i've been disfellowshipped for about 5 years and extremely happy to be out.

my ex wife is still a regular meeting attender and takes our two young kids with her (8 and 6 years old).

i recently saw some of the caleb and sophia videos on the jw.org website and was completely appalled, i remember what i was taught as a kid growing up in the organization but this seems so much worse and now that i'm out i can plainly see the mind control.

FayeDunaway

It's true....I saw my first snippet of a Caleb video yesterday and could hardly believe it. Sick.

Say simple things about extremism, like 'some people want to be different than other people and they point at something other people are doing and say you can't do that. You can make them happy and not do it for now, but when you are older you can decide what you want to do, and do what makes YOU happy.' Yeah don't say 'mind control' until they have the ability to think abstract thoughts, starting at 13 or so.

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How to get my kids out

by SaneAgain in

i've been disfellowshipped for about 5 years and extremely happy to be out.

my ex wife is still a regular meeting attender and takes our two young kids with her (8 and 6 years old).

i recently saw some of the caleb and sophia videos on the jw.org website and was completely appalled, i remember what i was taught as a kid growing up in the organization but this seems so much worse and now that i'm out i can plainly see the mind control.

FayeDunaway

I would say, for now, just be a positive, fun, balanced influence on your kids. You must feel such a loss of control over this religion messing with their minds. Let them know they can make their own choice later. Keep it simple of course, but let them know this basic thing. Also, I try to teach my kids about advertising, and how companies are trying to get them to spend their money and how manipulative they are being. Without discussing specifically the religion, teach them these techniques. 'See in this picture how they are trying to make these people look SO happy, so you want to buy what they are selling? Is that realistic?'

I hope that helps. Also this : Of course set limits, but be the fun parent. When they're with you, do the fun stuff. And Make sure they have friends that aren't witnesses. That's huge.

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Long Time Lurker

by the comet in

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friends

it took a few years but i finally decided to join yesterday.

my background, born-in, still go to meetings for family reasons, i am inactive however.

if you were to ask when i first woke up i would say 2010 with the overlapping generation garbage.

FayeDunaway

I keep hoping one of you is my brother in law, who i know is ttatt aware but not out of it...and my sister is very in, but a few years ago he said she only believed half of it. I haven't talked to him for a long time but heard he's going to meetings again.

I was hopeful, comet, for a while, but then you said something indicating you aren't him, darn!

Anyone else hoping to find people you know on here...maybe even hoping you get some family back and this would be the first clue? Just desperate dreams, I guess :(.

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Please Welcome me

by Sofia Lose in

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friends

have lurked here for many, many years.

female, latina, middle-aged, born-in, 3rd generation jw, northeast usa.

my fate is to continue to play the game 'till death do us part because the very strong and tangled web of friends, family, business, etc.

FayeDunaway

I'm sorry, I don't know if I started out wrong....but do we have to introduce ourselves before we can comment here? Cuz I never did!! I don't want to give personal details and I feel like I have to if I introduce myself. Anyway, Sofia, good for you for having your own mind!

I was of the same mind as you for a long time, thought I could just go through the motions and be ok pretending. Then I started reading the New Testament and basically fell in love with Christ and couldn't worship falsely anymore. Had to get out. It was long and trying and I miss my family but freedom to worship and be who I really am was and is worth it.

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Please Welcome me

by Sofia Lose in

jw
friends

have lurked here for many, many years.

female, latina, middle-aged, born-in, 3rd generation jw, northeast usa.

my fate is to continue to play the game 'till death do us part because the very strong and tangled web of friends, family, business, etc.

FayeDunaway

Hoser, I'm thinking at least 1/4.

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What did you become after leaving Jehovah's Witnesses?

by Garrett in

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friends

hey guys,.

so, since my leaving i have been doing so much research on so many topics that it's been extremely enlightening.

not only have i learned a lot about the organization and what motivates it, but i have also learned a lot about the bible, god and most importantly, myself.. currently, i'm not quite sure where i stand, but i'm having some real issues with the bible and god.

FayeDunaway

A liberal, non fundamentalist Christian active in a church and happy to have my own ideas and opinions and freely speak them amongst others who have their own ideas too...and somehow we all get along and love eachother.

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The WTBTS and Elders have too many stupid rules!

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i hated ministry book bags.i hated coming out of my home with the book bags looking like i was going to a seminar.so,i starting going to the ministry school and sunday bible meetings holding only the required books for that day in my hand.. for the sunday meetings,i would just carry the song book,bible and watchtower magazine in my hand.

no book bag!

for the ministry school,i would just carry just what necessary for the evening.

FayeDunaway

I like his nose

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Long Time Lurker

by the comet in

jw
friends

it took a few years but i finally decided to join yesterday.

my background, born-in, still go to meetings for family reasons, i am inactive however.

if you were to ask when i first woke up i would say 2010 with the overlapping generation garbage.

FayeDunaway

Lol...dr. Evil....I love that analogy! And they have eight ...MILLION...followers :D

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the GB stole my idea

by user100 in

so in the early 90's when i was about to get baptized the elder asked me a million questions and one of them was: .

who is the faithful and discreet slave?.

my answer:.

FayeDunaway

Lol joe...selective memory???

I remember being a teenager during the meeting, and whispering to my mother that I thought the 'generation' was just referring to a general group of people...not those specifically born before 1914. She shook her head, but 10 years later the GB came out saying the same thing (before the 'overlapping' fiasco they are currently teaching).

I remember This poor older sister said 'but that means this system could go on and on! I wanted to see it end in my lifetime!!'