Cart pusher, I'm not sure what you're after...you want us to tell you where we stand, unless we're atheist? How is that a poll...
anyway, mark one for Christian here.
james, that was beautiful and I get you.
FayeDunaway
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How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?
by JWCartPusher inhello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.
please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.
i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.
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My wife is frightened about the end/ What to say without sounding Apostate?
by suavojr inmy wife called me at work saying she is scared after reading today's daily text.
i don't read it anymore, therefore i went online and found this.. tuesday, march 3 .
those days will be cut short.matt.
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FayeDunaway
Yeah, tell her to not be scared. The early disciples couldn't WAIT for Jesus to return, it was something to look forward to, not fear, because if their love for him. And if you believe God's kingdom means good things for the earth, don't be scared, it's a positive thing.
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Has anybody got a copy of the older New World Translation ? (pre : the new simplified version ?)
by ukgirl inhey so i'm currently doing a uni project and making a film exploring my leaving of the witnesses.
i wanted to begin with an intro where i revisit the genesis account of god creating the heavens and the earth.
i remember it to be quite visually descriptive, so i wanted to take the account and illustrate it myself with narration over the top.
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JW literature cart spot pinched by another church group!
by stuckinarut2 insooooo funny!.
the spot that is used by the local cong in our town for the literature cart has been taken over by another church group!.
the witnesses arrived to set up, and another group was in the exact same spot, with a table, and brochures and a sign..... it will be a great thing as it dilutes the effectiveness of the witness activity, by making it look confusing to the local town people!.....
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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?
by Village Idiot inwhen i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
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FayeDunaway
My guess is 1 to 2 percent underground apostates coming with their wives or husbands (mostly wives).
25 percent have SERIOUS doubts about beliefs but figure where else are they going to go, and leaving is way too messy, and society might be right anyway, who knows. These may eventually come around at some point in their lives to being apostate.
50 percent on top of that have some doubts. The society is imperfect humans, but the truth is definitely there.
and less than 25 percent are true believers and suck up anything the WTBS says.
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How to get my kids out
by SaneAgain ini've been disfellowshipped for about 5 years and extremely happy to be out.
my ex wife is still a regular meeting attender and takes our two young kids with her (8 and 6 years old).
i recently saw some of the caleb and sophia videos on the jw.org website and was completely appalled, i remember what i was taught as a kid growing up in the organization but this seems so much worse and now that i'm out i can plainly see the mind control.
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It's true....I saw my first snippet of a Caleb video yesterday and could hardly believe it. Sick.
Say simple things about extremism, like 'some people want to be different than other people and they point at something other people are doing and say you can't do that. You can make them happy and not do it for now, but when you are older you can decide what you want to do, and do what makes YOU happy.' Yeah don't say 'mind control' until they have the ability to think abstract thoughts, starting at 13 or so.
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How to get my kids out
by SaneAgain ini've been disfellowshipped for about 5 years and extremely happy to be out.
my ex wife is still a regular meeting attender and takes our two young kids with her (8 and 6 years old).
i recently saw some of the caleb and sophia videos on the jw.org website and was completely appalled, i remember what i was taught as a kid growing up in the organization but this seems so much worse and now that i'm out i can plainly see the mind control.
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FayeDunaway
I would say, for now, just be a positive, fun, balanced influence on your kids. You must feel such a loss of control over this religion messing with their minds. Let them know they can make their own choice later. Keep it simple of course, but let them know this basic thing. Also, I try to teach my kids about advertising, and how companies are trying to get them to spend their money and how manipulative they are being. Without discussing specifically the religion, teach them these techniques. 'See in this picture how they are trying to make these people look SO happy, so you want to buy what they are selling? Is that realistic?'
I hope that helps. Also this : Of course set limits, but be the fun parent. When they're with you, do the fun stuff. And Make sure they have friends that aren't witnesses. That's huge.
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Long Time Lurker
by the comet init took a few years but i finally decided to join yesterday.
my background, born-in, still go to meetings for family reasons, i am inactive however.
if you were to ask when i first woke up i would say 2010 with the overlapping generation garbage.
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FayeDunaway
I keep hoping one of you is my brother in law, who i know is ttatt aware but not out of it...and my sister is very in, but a few years ago he said she only believed half of it. I haven't talked to him for a long time but heard he's going to meetings again.
I was hopeful, comet, for a while, but then you said something indicating you aren't him, darn!
Anyone else hoping to find people you know on here...maybe even hoping you get some family back and this would be the first clue? Just desperate dreams, I guess :(.
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Please Welcome me
by Sofia Lose inhave lurked here for many, many years.
female, latina, middle-aged, born-in, 3rd generation jw, northeast usa.
my fate is to continue to play the game 'till death do us part because the very strong and tangled web of friends, family, business, etc.
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I'm sorry, I don't know if I started out wrong....but do we have to introduce ourselves before we can comment here? Cuz I never did!! I don't want to give personal details and I feel like I have to if I introduce myself. Anyway, Sofia, good for you for having your own mind!
I was of the same mind as you for a long time, thought I could just go through the motions and be ok pretending. Then I started reading the New Testament and basically fell in love with Christ and couldn't worship falsely anymore. Had to get out. It was long and trying and I miss my family but freedom to worship and be who I really am was and is worth it.
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Please Welcome me
by Sofia Lose inhave lurked here for many, many years.
female, latina, middle-aged, born-in, 3rd generation jw, northeast usa.
my fate is to continue to play the game 'till death do us part because the very strong and tangled web of friends, family, business, etc.
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FayeDunaway
Hoser, I'm thinking at least 1/4.