Giordano I love that! The whole story. Your moment of epiphany by the school....
And you being the publishers' card servant, that's classic!
FayeDunaway
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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...
by Stumpy ini've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
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Hold Me, Thrill Me
by Hold Me-Thrill Me ini'm going to be honest and from the heart when i say that for 40 years in the jw religion i was very happy in my ignorance!
man, what a trip it was.
i loved every minute of it but then i was absent the bad in my religion.
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FayeDunaway
I had my own journey with the trinity as well. I did research, research and more research and finally came to mostly believe in it. Like freesoul, I believe Jesus being the only begotten son of God makes him the same essence of God. And I believe that man begets man, God begets God. Research the kingdom interrlinear, look at how the scriptures that support the trinity were twisted by the nwt (and probably even more so by the revised nwt). Go on websites and research the arguments of people who support the trinity. Check out the scriptures especially that are in the Old Testament speaking of God, which were actually fulfilled by Jesus. I had never heard of these before. They are on online. I said I MOSTLY believe in the trinity, because I believe the nicene creed makes the issue too cut and dry. I believe the Holy Spirit is a person, but not equal to God. Tho, offending the Holy Spirit is the only unforgiveable sin, and we are baptized in the NAME of the father, son and Holy Spirit, which indicate he is a person. The nicene creed was meant to reconcile all these scriptures and also explain why there is just one God. But as freesoul said, they are NOT the same person. Trinitarians do NOT believe Jesus was talking to himself when he was praying to his father. They are distinct persons. I also believe that the father is given respect DUE a father, and tho maybe not superior in essence, He is still the father.
When Jesus says 'the father is greater than I am' read the context of that scripture. It doesn't take much. Jesus was going to be with his father again, the disciples were mourning, he said do not feel bad for me, I am going to a higher place than here on earth, the father is greater than I am, I am going back to greatness to be with my father. God wanted Every knee to bend to his son. Obeisance means the same as worship. Same greek word. They just wanted you to believe what they wanted to believe so they couldn't bring themselves to say 'worship'. A father who wants every knee to bend to his son would not be offended by worship to him.
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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...
by Stumpy ini've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
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FayeDunaway
Phizzy you and I are in exactly! the same boat, and we have the same mental attitude too.
Thats the way I left, I lost my family tho not formally, they know I'm a danger, but I can NOT tolerate that which is false and the price for staying was too high. I miss my family so much, but freedom is worth it. My husband followed me out but was in mentally for a couple years.
It was really difficult, but truly, Give me liberty or give me death. Life is not worth living if you can't be free.
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National Sibiling Day and Jehovah's Witnesses
by wannaexit inin most of the usa and canada april 10 is national sibling day.
the witnesses are all in a frenzie actually celebrating this in my area.
yet in a few months these same people will shun mother and father's day.
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FayeDunaway
Hrm, I wonder what pagan god or goddess they can summon who was once worshipped and they were a sibling...Got to be one somewhere so they can spoil the fun. Can't have witnesses doing what 'the world' is doing!
lol @ Nicolau...that "spiritual brothers and sisters and their real blessings' sounds legit!
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PSALMS 83: 18 What is the name of God ?
by william draper inso many of us have been taught that the name of god is jehovah , if like me many have come to really appreciate god's name .. .
more accurately we , at least many or most love the name of jehovah , or more accurately should i say this pronunciation .
does god care what we call him , of course he does , he had his name written in the bible as yhwh ( best i can do on this computer ) , more than 6000 times .
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My first "disagreement" with standard JW thinking
by TTATT_Paladin inabout two years after i was baptized, i had this incident.
i looked at it as an isolated incident at the time, but now realize it would have had basically the same result with 99.99% of any jws not members here.. i will keep it short.
i was talking with a person who was raised in the religion.
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FayeDunaway
I gave a party with another sister for our little girls. We both wanted a piñata but she was nervous about offending people. She ended up getting a piñata like castle with strings you pull, the special string when pulled opened the door that released the candy. Which was ok with people, as long as a stick wasn't involved! It just makes me reflect how silly it all was.
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Being in a cult - what good did it do?
by Garrett inso, here's a bit of a different point of view.
while most of us will agree that our time within the jw cult was rather terrible, however, i'd like to look at another aspect.
did anything good come out of being in a cult and then waking up from it?.
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FayeDunaway
I'll always wonder that too. I'm thinking, tho, that I would have still had kids, since I've been obsessed with babies all my life. Would have been nice to have been told to do my best in school tho, and that my parents supported me in my education. That doesn't matter so much when the world is ending, AND you are female and can't get anywhere in the org anyway. The very best you could ever hope for was to be a circuit overseers wife....oh goody!
one thing that did help me a bit, was all the bible page turning. I am faster in the bible than most people in my church. It was all of that going back and forth, back and forth, pulling scriptures from here and there to prove bizarre stuff.
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Is door to door activity over?
by badcompany injust curious about others experience.
i've been living just a few miles from a kingdom hall for 9 years.
i've been called on 0 times.
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FayeDunaway
But it's hard to act like that when you are as sweet a person as lisarose!
lisa how about a note saying you are an exJW, but if they would like to hear all about the true history of their cult, as well as how much happier you are since leaving their cult, you would be happy to tell them, and if that was the case, please knock!
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Being in a cult - what good did it do?
by Garrett inso, here's a bit of a different point of view.
while most of us will agree that our time within the jw cult was rather terrible, however, i'd like to look at another aspect.
did anything good come out of being in a cult and then waking up from it?.
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FayeDunaway
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Hold Me, Thrill Me
by Hold Me-Thrill Me ini'm going to be honest and from the heart when i say that for 40 years in the jw religion i was very happy in my ignorance!
man, what a trip it was.
i loved every minute of it but then i was absent the bad in my religion.
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FayeDunaway
Other churches teach Jesus' teachings way more than witnesses do...i left jw's and hear way more about him than I used to! But I agree with you on the thrill. You have an interesting viewpoint. You are still a believer, your registered here, have read apostate stuff...but are obviously very kind and not one of the über dubs we see. Maybe you are a very liberal sort of witness! We'll see. Welcome!