Posts by FayeDunaway

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The visit with elder and wife outcome

by umbertoecho in

where to start in regard to my visit with the elder and his wife; a wife who sat mute throughout the discussion.

they arrived on the dot and we engaged in talk about the weather.

this could have gone on for some time but i brought it around to the reason for this particular visit.

FayeDunaway

Maybe he focused on his abuse story and resulting lack of memory to explain why he couldn't study with you using just the bible alone?

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Damned if they do, Damned if they don't

by FusionTheism in

jw
friends

i see an attitude among some people here which is not very helpful.

i can understand it, but still, it's not constructive or helpful.. if you condemn the society for not changing, but then you also condemn them when they do change in a positive way, what incentive or motive does that provide for the people at the society to ever want to change for the better?.

also, what does that attitude look like to current witnesses who are having doubts?.

FayeDunaway

Ft, I agree with most of your points above. It seems you are becoming happier the more they become like mainstream Christianity. So why not just take the plunge and join another church? Unless you have family in. In which case, i understand, and sympathize, with the exasperation of waiting for change...which feels like being famished and waiting for crumbs to fall from a table.

But these changes are still hypocritical, and they make them without acknowledging all the people they have hurt meanwhile, since their past interpretation of scripture was WRONG, and HURTFUL, LEGALISTIC--going far beyond the spirit of the law, and even CAUSED DEATH. In fact they are still causing death by not changing enough, but they are too proud to say 'we were wrong about blood in medicine.' So they have to skirt the issue, still making it difficult to survive loss of blood, especially if you happen to live in a third world country with less medical options available to you.

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Assembly today, Survival Tips and Recommendations Please!

by Blackfalcon98 in

jw
friends

so there's an indoctrination session tomorrow......any tips for getting through with my sanity intact?

FayeDunaway

I used to pass my time counting the lights on the ceiling. I still remember...there were 130!

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Assembly today, Survival Tips and Recommendations Please!

by Blackfalcon98 in

jw
friends

so there's an indoctrination session tomorrow......any tips for getting through with my sanity intact?

FayeDunaway

Fantastic idea bw! Go with wax earplugs...extremely effective and not even visible.

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Assembly today, Survival Tips and Recommendations Please!

by Blackfalcon98 in

jw
friends

so there's an indoctrination session tomorrow......any tips for getting through with my sanity intact?

FayeDunaway

Oogie, I figured since the convention has a Jesus theme he might be mentioned this time. Of course less than the governing body tho. And I forgot to add JW.Borg to the list. Duh!

Rebel8 I love the Pharisees and demon suggestions especially!!

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Assembly today, Survival Tips and Recommendations Please!

by Blackfalcon98 in

jw
friends

so there's an indoctrination session tomorrow......any tips for getting through with my sanity intact?

FayeDunaway

Keep a tally sheet the way kids do:

jehovah

Governing body

jesus

brazen conduct

tight pants

etc.

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Damned if they do, Damned if they don't

by FusionTheism in

jw
friends

i see an attitude among some people here which is not very helpful.

i can understand it, but still, it's not constructive or helpful.. if you condemn the society for not changing, but then you also condemn them when they do change in a positive way, what incentive or motive does that provide for the people at the society to ever want to change for the better?.

also, what does that attitude look like to current witnesses who are having doubts?.

FayeDunaway

Pete, I would 'like' your post 10 times if I could!

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Damned if they do, Damned if they don't

by FusionTheism in

jw
friends

i see an attitude among some people here which is not very helpful.

i can understand it, but still, it's not constructive or helpful.. if you condemn the society for not changing, but then you also condemn them when they do change in a positive way, what incentive or motive does that provide for the people at the society to ever want to change for the better?.

also, what does that attitude look like to current witnesses who are having doubts?.

FayeDunaway

Ok personally I think the types/ anti types change IS a good thing.

Of course they didn't apologize. No even indirectly. And of course this is what 'christendom' has been teaching for thousands! of years, and witnesses make a big deal of it, pat themselves on the back, Oh we are SO wise!!!

While they blamed people in the past for being like babes, not understanding the 'deeper things' they had made up, which was actually PURE BS.

So yes, the change is good, but it is really hypocritical.

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