i faded completely (no kh visits or field service).. just recently a close friend from the kh wrote:.
"dear daniel.
it's a pity that we don't see you anymore at the kingdom hall.
Yeah, just keep it really upbeat
hey, thanks for your concern and I miss you too. But everything is great and I'm really happy these days, I've been... (whatever it is making you happy)...if you want to have lunch sometime that sounds fun! But please don't feel sad for me, I'm better than ever, seriously.
i have posted questions on christian web sites.
those questions have always been polite and i have never used questionable language.
the questions weren't exactly in support of christians though.. what did i get for my efforts?.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH???? WITNESSES????
Um, no. Much much less than other Christians, actually. Go try to even register on an active witness site. if successful, see how long you last.
They call this site here 'apostate' and call us all sorts of hateful names, wouldn't say hi to us on the street.
do you think any of the members of the governing body have at one time in their lives committed an immoral sex act but never confessed?
remember leo greenlees.
fornication, adultery or something else?
so how much do you understand about brainwashing, its application and effects ?
essentially lures people into its grasps and then brainwashes them for exploitation and manipulative purposes by using mental indoctrination techniques.. here's a quick quiz to take to answer some of these questions.
http://voicesfordignity.com/brainwashing-iq/.
20 out of 21 for me. I got the red flag question wrong...but it was a tricky one.
I do think that creative, more artsy people can be brainwashed more easily than mathematical/scientific people.
Simon says, I don't know why you did so poorly. I thought of my mother the whole quiz. She is a true believer who says 'brainwashing is a GOOD thing! Our brains have been washed clean!!'
The quiz was so interesting. Witness publications do brainwash people. And I don't mean that in a good way. They can no longer think for themselves.
do you think any of the members of the governing body have at one time in their lives committed an immoral sex act but never confessed?
remember leo greenlees.
fornication, adultery or something else?
so, i was thinking - who of the above still has the most influence on current wts doctrine and dogma?.
rutherford obviously created the smokescreen around 1914/607 but overall his work has been superseded i would suggest.. knorr created the various schools and they or their offspring still live on.
wasn't it during his tenure that all the blood doctrine, types/anti types (now chucked away of course), transplants etc came along?
if we are in the congregation, do you think our comments or questions actually reach elders or others in the congregation?
do our comments on this board affect witnesses to the point of questioning their faith?
so after 20 years a convert, about a month ago i decided to start listening to my doubts and to do independent research about the wtbts teachings (naughty me).
as a result i have consolidated my position on various points and these are my major issues with the wtbts teachings, i am posting these to help myself figure things out (with your assistance) and hopefully to hear from others at their stage of drawing away from the gb - newbies' especially.
in the form of notes so hope you dont mind...child abuse.
if we are in the congregation, do you think our comments or questions actually reach elders or others in the congregation?
do our comments on this board affect witnesses to the point of questioning their faith?
I think it does. Definitely. But one thing I thought years ago, when I was still half a believer, was that many comments on this site matched the hateful slanderous attitude we were warned against. So that did turn me off. I preferred jwfacts and silent lambs back then. Outlaw I didn't like you back then, didn't appreciate the humor, sorry to say! I quite like it now that I've fully accepted the basic truths that inspire the humor.
I do think we shouldn't get too acerbic though, and remember to make our points in a fair light, so as to not turn off doubters with more belief than not. I need to remind myself of this too.
i was discussing this topic with two friends of mine, ex jws, a few nights ago.
i think it would be boring after a while.
you can't smoke, have to drink with moderation (difficult in europe with all the wines).
