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  Born Ins Vs Converts

  by JW_Rogue in

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  2. experiences

  did you ever feel like born ins were looked at differently than those that were converted?

  i always felt that there was a level of suspicion around those "raised in the truth".

  that we were always suspected of being jws to make our family happy.

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  FayeDunaway

  D4g, so true.

  being a born in, when you are a naturally independent thinker and free spirit, SUCKS. Especially if your parents are good strong witnesses. I want a real childhood.
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  Charity

  by aintenoughwiskey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we know the wt interpretation of matt 25:40 is support of the anointed.

  since most of us here are no longer in that situation, what, if any forms of charity are you involved in?

  sorry for the awkward framing of the question, it's not meant to imply atheists, or non-christians are not charitable!

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  FayeDunaway

  Smiddy, like I said, when we were witnesses I used to donate to mostly animal shelters (I would get begging letters every single day in the mail).... also public radio. Actually if I hadn't been an avid listener of public radio the last 25 years, I might still be a witness! (a half believing witness), ugh, what a pain that would be. Worrying about my kids not following 'the truth.' So glad those tumultuous changes happened, and we are out!
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  Has there been new counsel about Facebook recently?

  by purrpurr in

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  i've noticed increasing amounts of jw's are coming off fb and deactivating completely.

  all with the same reason which they post about at lenght which is that they wwant to focus more on their spiritual life and not have the distraction of fb.. have i missed something or is this just a coincidence?.

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  FayeDunaway

  I think it's not a coincidence this is often a trend during convention time.
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  Strange Moment During The 2015 Regional Convention

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi, i'm new here but hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.

  during the "imitate jesus" rc there was a strange moment where they played a video of a brother trying to explain the 1914 teaching.

  the brother quickly goes through all the scriptural "proofs" and the householder is dumbfounded.

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  FayeDunaway

  The only reason they stuck with 1914 instead of finding a new date (as russell had done a few times previously!) was because WWI happened to break out. I can imagine his excitement as war started being declared across Europe, 'Oh, thank GOD!!! I don't have to move the date again!!!'
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  Charity

  by aintenoughwiskey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we know the wt interpretation of matt 25:40 is support of the anointed.

  since most of us here are no longer in that situation, what, if any forms of charity are you involved in?

  sorry for the awkward framing of the question, it's not meant to imply atheists, or non-christians are not charitable!

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  FayeDunaway

  It is amazing. These operations in developed countries are so common....in countries where it is not possibly affordable or accessible, whole lives are ruined. Thanks for telling me about that one.
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  Strange Moment During The 2015 Regional Convention

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi, i'm new here but hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.

  during the "imitate jesus" rc there was a strange moment where they played a video of a brother trying to explain the 1914 teaching.

  the brother quickly goes through all the scriptural "proofs" and the householder is dumbfounded.

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  FayeDunaway

  Sometimes it just suddenly strikes me as so ludicrous that the world, according to them, was supposed to end in 1914. And they have SUCCESSFULLY managed to string people along for over a hundred years, 'no really!! It's coming!! Any day now!!!!'

  that is manipulation SKILLS.
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  30 most edited regular Wikipedia pages

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses topic made it to the list:.

  http://i.imgur.com/7m2xgzz.png.

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  FayeDunaway

  Me too lrg! I bet Latter Day Saints and Scientology are numbers 31 and 32 :). Other controversial organizations that have way too many strung out followers spending time maintaining their image.

  Incidentally, when I was researching the cross on Wikipedia years ago, I saw that picture that was in the live forever book, drawn 400 years ago, of jesus on a stake. It was right next to OTHER configurations the same artist had done, he had like 16 different ideas of the way jesus could have been impaled. Most of them with arms outstretched. Of course the live forever book didn't have THOSE drawings in it. They purposely chose an 'old looking' drawing to make it seem like people used to not believe in the cross, never mentioning the other 15 drawings. But this misrepresentation I realize now is normal for them.

  Researching wikipedia a couple years later, it was all gone.
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  Strange Moment During The 2015 Regional Convention

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi, i'm new here but hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.

  during the "imitate jesus" rc there was a strange moment where they played a video of a brother trying to explain the 1914 teaching.

  the brother quickly goes through all the scriptural "proofs" and the householder is dumbfounded.

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  FayeDunaway

  It takes a lot for me to click on a real wt video, and I haven't watched this one. But could the object of the video be to encourage them to SIMPLIFY witnessing? Just stick to placing magazines and directing people to the website?
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  Songs celebrating leaving the faith? Not being a puppet, mind controlled, living life, etc etc

  by aley63 in

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  i am looking for some songs that are in ref to celebrating leaving, seeing the light, realizing what you were told wasnt right, being happy w your life, etc etc.

  all those emotions about being controlled and repressed, being told what you can feel or think or how to live, blindly following the "brotherhood ".

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  FayeDunaway

  Ok, obviously this has been sung way too often by cute little 7 year old girls. But thinking about how it applies to us who have left 'the truth'.....

  
  

  The snow glows white on the mountain tonight
  Not a footprint to be seen
  A kingdom of isolation
  And it looks like I'm the queen
  
  The wind is howling like this swirling storm inside
  Couldn't keep it in, heaven knows I tried
  Don't let them in, don't let them see
  Be the good girl you always have to be
  Conceal, don't feel, don't let them know
  Well, now they know
  
  Let it go, let it go
  Can't hold it back anymore
  Let it go, let it go
  Turn away and slam the door
  I don't care what they're going to say
  Let the storm rage on
  The cold never bothered me anyway
  
  It's funny how some distance makes everything seem small
  And the fears that once controlled me can't get to me at all
  It's time to see what I can do
  To test the limits and break through
  No right, no wrong, no rules for me
  I'm free
  
  Let it go, let it go
  I am one with the wind and sky
  Let it go, let it go
  You'll never see me cry
  Here I stand and here I'll stay
  Let the storm rage on...
  
  My power flurries through the air into the ground
  My soul is spiraling in frozen fractals all around
  And one thought crystallizes like an icy blast
  I'm never going back
  The past is in the past
  
  Let it go, let it go
  And I'll rise like the break of dawn
  Let it go, let it go
  That perfect girl is gone
  Here I stand in the light of day
  Let the storm rage on!
  The cold never bothered me anyway
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  Strange Moment During The 2015 Regional Convention

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi, i'm new here but hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.

  during the "imitate jesus" rc there was a strange moment where they played a video of a brother trying to explain the 1914 teaching.

  the brother quickly goes through all the scriptural "proofs" and the householder is dumbfounded.

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  FayeDunaway

  John that's interesting!

  But the witnesses are so slick with words, i think they'll use their manipulation mastery to twist it in such a way as to keep most of the flock enraptured.

  I would think they are losing followers to the 'generation overlap'...dropping 1914 would help with that. Most of the reasonable sort of witness would like to lose any association with any specific date (and therefore false prophecy). But you're right, it would be a huge admission that they were wrong. And unlike the other false date prophesies, it has been written about constantly in their literature. Not easy to shake off. Time will tell what they decide to do. They can't stick with it much longer.