I once felt like you and so desperate. Wanted to get my kids out and my husband wanted to stay in. I felt like leaving him. I was so angry with everything I actually imagined taking the society to the supreme Court too!! Well, with a lot of patience and turmoil and uncertainty, I managed to get everyone out with me but sorely miss my birth family. Lost all witness friends but have my kids. Not a bad trade off at all!! My husband wasn't an elder and not a 100%true believer so that part was easier than your situation. I hope it works out for you! At least you have your sister and daughter!!!
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Hey ya'll! My first post. Please help. In need of advice/comfort.
by Stepford Wife inhey ya'll!
i have been lurking for years on this site and others but never had the courage to post anything.
actually i was afraid of posting on an apostate site in the event i was wrong.
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Hey ya'll! My first post. Please help. In need of advice/comfort.
by Stepford Wife inhey ya'll!
i have been lurking for years on this site and others but never had the courage to post anything.
actually i was afraid of posting on an apostate site in the event i was wrong.
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FayeDunaway
If you agree with everything they say when they meet with you, it will take a lot of strength and inventiveness to come up with reasons why you aren't doing meetings and service anymore. I agree meeting with them won't necessarily cause you damage but it could cause you awkwardness. Maybe the 'I don't want to waste their time' would be better, but if that is causing your husband more anger/anxiety than it's worth, be prepared to have some reasons for not being an active witness that have nothing to do with doctrine/apostate info. Maybe expressing an interest in science and atheist thoughts might be OK tho I'm not totally sure of that. Fragile ice to be treading on!Welcome and I'm sorry about your situation :(. -
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New way to fade?
by dothemath ina brother in a local congregation has successfully faded, no announcements or judicial hearings that anyone has heard of.. his immediate family are all out, but they have lots of family still in.. if he had joined another religion, or the army, or put up christmas lights, likely the elders would be hounding them like crazy.. but no, he has accepted evolution(it seems to be common knowledge).. i would have thought this would be a disfellowshipping offense, but lots of time has passed, and they just leave them all alone..
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Ironically, atheist thoughts are not a big worry to elders as long as you dont 'proselytize' them...they wont even badger you much about meeting attendamce. If you start believing in different doctrine tho, from reading the Bible with eyes open, then you are in trouble, better take extra care to fade quietly and better move if you want to join another church.
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Some thoughts on the new midweek meeting
by Saltheart Foamfollower inthe new midweek meeting has been running for a month now.
here are my thoughts on how it is going so far:.
1) elders are looking frazzled from being on virtually every meeting and having to prepare unfamiliar formats for items.
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Some thoughts on the new midweek meeting
by Saltheart Foamfollower inthe new midweek meeting has been running for a month now.
here are my thoughts on how it is going so far:.
1) elders are looking frazzled from being on virtually every meeting and having to prepare unfamiliar formats for items.
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FayeDunaway
The society wants to pretend everything is perfect and the way to solve all their problems is simply to script everything so no one ever says anything embarrassing or that doesn't exactly replicate what they would say. But guess what, they are boring and predictable and brain dead. All this driving away individuality has ripped the soul out of their organization. I remember when there was something like some personality. It's been a long process, really, but they have succeeded. The TMS used to be my favorite of the meetings, because you might hear someone put their own thoughts to something and it would be refreshing. Now there would be nothing to look forward to but disfellowshipping announcements. -
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Why are you so obsessed with the preaching work? Doesn't it matter WHAT is being preached? Perhaps not, since you think the Mormons are sticking close to the bible (Do some research into their beliefs and the difference between their 'milk and meat.' On the surface it all seems so rosy, but in the deeper reality, it is very, very weird. So are witnesses' beliefs, actually). A cult is a cult.... does it make it any better that they are preaching far and wide? Does that make it more true?
Former brother, go walk into a real church and ask some questions.
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Jesus mentions helping the poor way, way more than preaching. How do Jehovah's Witnesses do with that, FB? Not so well. You are very concerned with following all parts of (their) bible, and this part is not masked by their bible, yet they ignore it. Why? It brings no benefit to their corporation. -
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New Here
by Grey Goose inhi one and all.. i've lurked for 3 years, about time i signed up.. i'm a still in ms due to family.. fully awake.. i look forward to getting to know all of you..
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3 years is a long time to lurk!! Welcome, and no pressure from us on when to to leave. But if you've got kids it's good to get them out if possible so they can have a normal childhood. But the whole situation is a mess and I feel bad for anyone who is fully awake and has family in. It sucks big time. -
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How do you feel about the expression "The Truth"?
by stuckinarut2 init's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".
"is he 'in the truth'?".
most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.
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I didn't realize how VERY culty it sounded until I left.
Now when I hear people say it I want to say 'So how long have you been in The Lies?'...which is much more accurate.
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"Fa La La"
by OnTheWayOut inout at the mall with mrs. otwo, she sees a shirt on the rack that was marked down from $25 to just $4.
she holds it up and says, "should i buy this as a workout shirt?".
i tell her "no, because as soon as you figure out what it means, you won't wear it anymore.
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FayeDunaway
That Dylan song story is ABSOLUTELY CLASSIC. I can hardly believe it! I'm trying to remember the lyrics and see it from that perspective :D.
Re: jingle bells. Does anyone remember the sesame street segment 'Elmo's world'? A particularly strict sister wouldn't let her children watch it. She shut sesame street off right before it started. Why? Because the Elmo's world song was set to the same tune as Jingle Bells. 'Elmo's world, Elmo's world, time to play today'.... I told her ' but jingle bells isn't even a Christmas song.' She responded 'but it's ASSOCIATED with Christmas. I've done the research...'
Omg. So glad to not be exposing my kids to that insanity anymore!