That's exactly what woke me up. I didn't like a talk at a circuit assembly, actually it was a visiting GB speaker, and he was being really bombastic. I started reading the new testament instead (john i believe) and noticing how many times Jesus was mentioned along with the Father. Then I would stop and listen to see if the language was similar to what I was reading.. Nope, nothing but Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah. I was beginning to realize that they were pushing their own agenda which didn't sound like the Bible, and repetition of the name Jehovah was used because their organization has that name in it, and they could use the name 'jehovah' interchangeably to mean their organization. Staying loyal to Jehovah meant lapping up whatever they were feeding us. But there was way more emphasis on Jesus in the bible, and for them to ignore that was a serious issue with me. Even if they suddenly started paying attention to him, it was too late. How could an organization that had ignored Jesus for many decades be OK?
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Jehovah's Witnesses View of Jesus Compared to the Early Church
by cofty inthe following is an extract from something i wrote 16 years ago soon after leaving the watchtower.
i am posting it because it may help honest jws consider how far their beliefs are at odds with new testament christians.
if they have "the truth" then their attitude to jesus ought to reflect that of the apostles.
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Are Witnesses really "Bible Students"?
by stuckinarut2 inwe were always told that as witnesses we were "sincere bible students".... carefully examining the scriptures.. yes, we were indeed taught much about the content of the bible, it's history, prophecies etc..... but it was always from one perspective....that of the society.
when the society changed its interpretations, we had to do the same..... so were we really "bible students", or "society students"?.
just a thought.....
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FayeDunaway
They aren't bible students. When they start actually studying the Bible they can no longer stay witnesses because witness doctrine is totally different from what is actually in the bible. Becoming a Bible student= eventually leaving the witnesses. -
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OK Rutherford looks like an evil clown in that one.... -
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Robo bobo! Rutherford's FACE in that pic!! My life was controlled by the religion started by THAT guy. He's OBVIOUSLY a nut job. It makes me sick my family somehow fell for it!! -
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Things I Never Knew When I Was A Witness!
by disillusioned 2 inthere are some things that as a witness i never knew.
maybe i was just going through the motions, attending meetings and not listening much.
never was very good at personal study or underlining answers in watchtower or book study (i never ever answered up) was too shy.. i never knew when i was a witness that they taught that jesus had looked down on the earth in 1919 to see who was serving god most accurately, and of course he chose a small group of bible students living in america!
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FayeDunaway
Omg, is THAT why every elder is supposed to have a locked file drawer in their house?? That's disgusting. As if every single person doesn't sin in some way or another!
I just learned something new today!
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Got a call, my dad is in hospice...
by dubstepped inour last conversation was him yelling at me because i "loved the gays".
translation, i pointed out that nobody chooses their sexuality.
i've been shunned since daing last september, and really for a year or so after visiting my df'ed brother.
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FayeDunaway
Dubstepped I would do something for your dad during your camping trip. Maybe say a few words for him around the fire one night. Have your own small Ceremony. Read Psalm 23. Sing a song.
It's going to be more meaningful than any witness memorial.
I'm glad there are good parts about your relationship with him that you can remember.
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Things I Never Knew When I Was A Witness!
by disillusioned 2 inthere are some things that as a witness i never knew.
maybe i was just going through the motions, attending meetings and not listening much.
never was very good at personal study or underlining answers in watchtower or book study (i never ever answered up) was too shy.. i never knew when i was a witness that they taught that jesus had looked down on the earth in 1919 to see who was serving god most accurately, and of course he chose a small group of bible students living in america!
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FayeDunaway
I didn't know about miracle wheat, Beth Sarim, their hypocritical membership in the UN (that oh so detestable sacrilegious thing that wants to um, avoid war and um, end hunger and help children), that Russell used the steps inside the great pyramid of Giza to prove the end would come in 1914 (which is very similar to another cult's measurements of Noah's ark to predict the end of the world. One quack's ideas are not so different from another's!), Rutherford's horrible, horrible personality, alcoholism and well documented adultery, and that he usurped the Bible Students throne after Russell died, and went against the wishes of Russell outlined in Russell's will. I didn't know about the hypocrisy of policies in Africa vs. the same issues in Mexico (can't hurt the people so close to us, lets have a double standard)...
I DID know about Russell's pyramid gravesite and the masonic ties, and I had heard of Russell's divorce. I think there was a guy/apostate? at a door who had read a book and shared with me and my father those things before my father dismissed ourselves.
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I went to see my Dr about the blood card issue
by purrpurr ini booked a double appointment so that she wouldn't be rushed.
i explained that i'd been brought up in the jw's and woken up to what a load of shite it was.
i explained that they have changed the blood card and that the elders in the cong are being told to effectively force people into signing it.
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FayeDunaway
Pale emperor, I think most witnesses are very homophobic and male witnesses are generally sexist. The only one I would contest is the racist charge. I know there is racism in southern USA congregations, and witnesses in my own extended family are racist, but I would say the racisim reflects from the communities the witnesses live in, while the homophobia and sexism is generally worse than in the communities witnesses live in. -
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Bible Visit
by Michelle inis anyone here from imus cavite?
i need someone come to our house.
i need someone to invite my father.
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FayeDunaway
Michelle, nobody needs a high control religion to come swoop in and take their life over. It would only serve their own purposes. They want you to serve as one of their minions. If you want religion in your life, try a regular church, not a cult. -
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Missionary suicide..
by fulano ini just read this.... http://avoidjw.org/2014/12/suicide-jehovahs-witness-missionary/.
does anybody know if this was a "real", missionary, or a need greater and who was it?
if you don't want to mention it here please a pm..
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FayeDunaway
I just want to say, that if you are a lurker here and are going through depression because this religion you used to believe in is a sham but you feel stuck, your life WILL get better, your circumstances may change, or you just might mature and grow more courageous to finally live for yourself, but please don't feel like you are going to be stuck forever. It is better to break away, slowly or quickly, your choice, than to try to keep everything 'perfect' when in reality you know you are miserable. You can rebuild your life. You can seek therapy to survive what you're going through now until then. Don't give up!!!!