I remember this when I was researching whether or not Christ actually died on a cross. I dont remember the dating of the graffiti other than that I was impressed how early it was. Maybe 180 AD?
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The first known graffiti making fun of Christians
by fulltimestudent inwhat was the graffiti artist intending when he/she scratched this cartoon like drawing on the wall of a building that served as a training school for imperial guards and personal attendants in the imperial palace area of rome.
it is known as the alexamenos graffito.. .
our interest may focus on the crucified figure, but as a tracing of the drawing makes a little clearer - there's another figure of interest, a young male whose gestures indicate that he's praying, and the crudely written text says: .
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Since leaving WTTS have you joined a new church or just continue with the new beliefs you have discovered under no religion?
by AmIright inshare your thoughts ?
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FayeDunaway
Before I was able to leave the witnesses but was SO ready to leave the witnesses, I had a lot of good time to study the bible and what I believed about it. I am a very social type of person who loves tradition, so finding a new church was a natural thing for me. I am also freedom loving, and don't like someone telling you what you have to believe, so a liberal church was important to me. I am now in an intelligent mainline liberal protestant church and am completely at home and completely free there. There are doctors and professors and astrophysicists and sales clerks and all kinds of different loving people. I believe in evolution and most do at church but interpretation is a private thing. We all love to worship God together.
Church isn't for everyone, and each type of church isn't for everyone...God knows I certainly wouldn't be happy just anywhere, but Ive found what is right for me and my relationship with God.
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Where is the Rebel.
by The Rebel inwho cares?.
the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.
my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.
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FayeDunaway
Millie and Lisa Rose are both amazingly reasonable and nurturing souls. (Where is Lisa rose BTW??)
People like those two should be world leaders! I nominate them both :).
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Where is the Rebel.
by The Rebel inwho cares?.
the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.
my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.
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FayeDunaway
GROUP HUG!!!!
lol. Millie you know I think you're fabulous ♥.
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Where is the Rebel.
by The Rebel inwho cares?.
the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.
my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.
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FayeDunaway
Wow I love this thread. And I love you Pete, you're one of the good ones. Please don't feel unloved. I don't think I've ever disliked any of your posts. Just liked, and often. -
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Anthony Morris claims "dogmatic" does not apply to GB.
by Sanchy inso i was scrolling through the latest morning worship videos and found our good friend tony m. explaining why the gb is not dogmatic.
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you can find hirs reasoning at around the 3:30 mark here..
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FayeDunaway
Fink, funny how that second definition especially has Jehovah's Witnesses written ALL over it! -
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Anthony Morris claims "dogmatic" does not apply to GB.
by Sanchy inso i was scrolling through the latest morning worship videos and found our good friend tony m. explaining why the gb is not dogmatic.
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you can find hirs reasoning at around the 3:30 mark here..
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FayeDunaway
We are NOT dogmatic!! And you better not say we are, or you are OUT THE DOOR!! -
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Overlapping gen teaching- Help?
by raven inhi friends,.
can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching?
i have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to?
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FayeDunaway
Russell had predicted a few different, earlier dates, before he set on 1914 as the end of the world. The others were obviously wrong, nothing happened. In 1914 World War I started. Lucky Russell! It looked like finally maybe he was right this time. So he stood up in that dining hall and announced the end of the gentile times!! But the end didn't come. It was just a big war. So he said, Christ's presence is actually INVISIBLE, whoops! But he's here! Believe you me! And they got themselves so into the 1914 date, after saying it had already happened, that they were stuck. They said this scripture Jesus mentioned describing the destruction of Jerusalem, that's actually in reference to 1914, and the great triibulation will be in our time for the REAL fulfillment...any day now....any....day....now.....while that generation that saw 1914 got older and older. They have basically found creative ways to string people along for over a HUNDRED YEARS AFTER 1914. They often changed how long a generation was supposed to be. And then they kept changing how old someone had to be in 1914 so that they would be old enough to comprehend what was going on. Toward the end they could be 4 years old in 1914. When it was 100 years after 1914 and obviously that generation wasn't around anymore, they had to try to give themselves time SOMEHOW. So David splane did the weird unbiblical crossover generation thing. Which could conceivably buy them 80 more years! And you know, don't question them, because they are always right. -
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Where is the Rebel.
by The Rebel inwho cares?.
the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.
my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.
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FayeDunaway
I think that those of us with close family still in the cult can't move on from it. The cult will need to die, or our family will need to get out of the cult, for us to be done with it. It's a slave organization that utilizes mind control.The injustice screams out to us as long as the injustice continues.
I may eventually barely come here anymore, because I am addicted and need to get other things done, and this makes me feel guilty that I spend too much time here! But as long as the family I have that are still in it are alive, I will be thinking about it all the time.
For those of you with no family in it and you are ready to move on, I congratulate you and am happy this place helped you while you needed it. Moving on is healthy.
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Jehovah's Witnesses View of Jesus Compared to the Early Church
by cofty inthe following is an extract from something i wrote 16 years ago soon after leaving the watchtower.
i am posting it because it may help honest jws consider how far their beliefs are at odds with new testament christians.
if they have "the truth" then their attitude to jesus ought to reflect that of the apostles.
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FayeDunaway
That's exactly what woke me up. I didn't like a talk at a circuit assembly, actually it was a visiting GB speaker, and he was being really bombastic. I started reading the new testament instead (john i believe) and noticing how many times Jesus was mentioned along with the Father. Then I would stop and listen to see if the language was similar to what I was reading.. Nope, nothing but Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah. I was beginning to realize that they were pushing their own agenda which didn't sound like the Bible, and repetition of the name Jehovah was used because their organization has that name in it, and they could use the name 'jehovah' interchangeably to mean their organization. Staying loyal to Jehovah meant lapping up whatever they were feeding us. But there was way more emphasis on Jesus in the bible, and for them to ignore that was a serious issue with me. Even if they suddenly started paying attention to him, it was too late. How could an organization that had ignored Jesus for many decades be OK?