i honestly have never heard such claptrap being delivered in a memorial talk.. the speaker repeatedly put down the way other religions administered the bread & wine, and claimed that witnesses do it exactly as the bible describes.
oh yeah????.
he forgot to mention - when reading aloud 1 corinthians 11:25 - that after passing the bread, a full meal was to be shared, before the wine was passed around!
It is sooo ridiculous how they worry so much about getting the day right, getting the wine and bread right, getting the 'sundown' right....yet they get the MAIN thing...that all believers should partake, WRONG.
Like I said earlier today... Over applying parts of scripture, completely missing the principle. I am happy to not be going. I went to a much more meaningful good Friday type celebration.
i walked by the local double hall this afternoon on my way home from work at about 4:30 pm.
you would never know it's a special night.
no cars in the lot, nothing swept, no flowers or decorations...totally dead.
... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
(sorry for any typos, i'm on my ipad) so, remember how in my last post i mentioned that i had told some of my dear friends why i decided to leave?
well, one of those friends was a girl... not just any girl, but rather, a girl that i've loved since the moment i've met her.
she used to say that she considered me her best friend and we were really close she just never really returned my feelings for her due to different circumstances i presume.. but i always felt a connection.. anyways, after telling her that i decided to leave because of multiple reasons but that the tolerance of child sex abuse was the final straw, she responded asking where i got my information and that she wanted to talk about it with me.. this feels like an opportunity for me to tell her about my findings, what do you think?
Yep, she's definitely open to talking and maybe thinking about it! I remember you mentioning her before, that she is more 'normal' than most witnesses.
Just prepare her that her whole life may possibly be about to turn into a roller coaster ride. And she possibly is going to try to change your mind (did you tell her you sent the DA letter???)
this is my first post here though i've been a long time lurker.
my story in a nutshell:.
started having doubts after the new silver sword and watchtower study regarding overlapping generations.
The memorial as laid out in scriptures is nothing like the witness memorial. They actively REJECT the salvation of Christ by passing the plate and not partaking. I disagree with finkelstein on this one and believe that the witness memorial is NOT biblically sound. The whole 'other sheep' thing is insane. The little flock Jesus was speaking of is the Jews, the other sheep, and great crowd, are Gentiles. But everyone who believes in the salvation of Jesus partakes!!
... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
For me this issue is so simple. Blood is sacred because it represents life. Life is so sacred we should do anything to save it. Including using blood to save life. This is actually the most respectful way we could treat blood, to use it to save life. it's what blood is for, to preserve life.
If you take a life, you are blood guilty. If you let someone die because they need blood, you are blood guilty.
The biblical 'pouring out blood' was about killing animals and eating them. It was disrespectful to eat the blood, it was not considering the life that you had taken to eat that animal. It has nothing to do with how blood is used today to save lives. It is disrespectful to let someone die and not use the lifesaving gift of blood.
it is the simple-mindedness of JW doctrine to take these scriptures and not only over-apply them but not understand the principle behind them.
what is the wackiest...strangest....most unusual jw teaching or practice?
what is the wackiest...strangest....most unusual jw teaching or practice?
It's funny that 1914 happened to bring WW I, so that is the one date they stuck with. It's so ridiculous thinking about it now. A doomsday cult saying 'the end is coming in THIS year!' And then them saying...oh it happened, it was just invisible.
and yes, even after the prophesy said every eye would SEE it.
I feel stupid. no I never fully believed, but I mostly believed. And why the heck didn't I speak up more.
what is the wackiest...strangest....most unusual jw teaching or practice?
Village... Sweaters on heads, that's wacky alright!
How about...change your church....lose your family!!
scenerio.
your daughter gets pregnant.
your little girl whom you've invested your life and love.
