does anybody know if ray franz ever addressed his thoughts on atheism?
from what i've read, he was a diligent reader of the bible.
if anybody has any info and sources about this, it is highly appreciated.
I agree jwiq, I would have liked to ask him some questions too, esp about the trinity, and I do wonder how he would address atheist questions.
Im actually half through 'in search of Christian freedom'...I rushed through CoC but this one have taken extremely slowly, I think because I am sad he is dead and these are the last words from him to read.
i went to a j.w funeral and saw some people i used to hang out with many years ago and they all seemed to want to tell me if they or any member of their family were elders,m.s's,pioneers ect.. karter..
does anybody know if ray franz ever addressed his thoughts on atheism?
from what i've read, he was a diligent reader of the bible.
if anybody has any info and sources about this, it is highly appreciated.
just a thought.... looking through the greatest man book, something just occurred to me which i can't recall has ever been highlighted (but please correct me).. i always thought it a bit strange that jehovah allowed the three pagan astrologers to find jesus especially as they were obviously guided to him by satan's star (remember they were led to herod first who wanted to kill the messiah).
what purpose did it serve?.
well, a few pages earlier in tgm book, we see mary presenting a dove as a sin offering at the temple - this was the cheapest offering that was acceptable which must have meant that they were pretty poor at the time.. shortly after the three wise men visited the family had to flee to egypt when herod started to kill all the young boys in an attempt to kill jesus.. what would they need to travel and live as exiles for a couple of years?.
conversation came up this morning and i need to get into my wife's head.
mother in law was talking and she said something her mother (who was not a jw) use to say.
i laughed uncontrollably because it was really funny.
i went to a j.w funeral and saw some people i used to hang out with many years ago and they all seemed to want to tell me if they or any member of their family were elders,m.s's,pioneers ect.. karter..
did the resurrection start in 1918/1919 or the first century?.
the wt teaches that the anointed started getting resurrected sometime around 1918/1919.
before that everyone was asleep in the grave, including all the apostles.
Oubliette, I don't blame them for this tho. They are usually really, really overwhelmed with their own businesses and families and meetings and committees and writing talks... how can they have time to research the religions ridiculous doctrine in such a way they can prove it to others?
the ones you have to watch out for are the ones who don't have family at home and are unemployed. Way too much time on their hands for poking their noses into other people's business.
having recently had an "awakening" - not from reading awake .... i realize i can not preach doctrines i do not believe anymore .
but i do not want the elders to start following my every move, because i also have plans to check other christian denominations.. so i am thinking, should i chat for an hour or two with an old visit and report the hours, should i tell the elders i have some doubts and i do not want to preach for now or should i just stop reporting and avoid the elders attempts to talk to me?
what do you think is the best sollution to get away with this?
I'm with giordano. Volunteer! Join clubs! For me, a new church brought the most friends tho, and it's not controlling, there is so much open mindedness and freedom of thought and expression it was actually shocking to me. But like you said, research doctrine and see where you stand before choosing one. I think you will be ok. Take a couple more months and either turn in fake time (I never could do that, but do what you can do. It's all meaningless anyway) or do return visits with other people or go on someone's study. Spend spare time researching doctrine and looking into organizations/clubs/classes you are interested in and you will meet friends there! But don't rush it. PM me if you want to talk.
i went to a j.w funeral and saw some people i used to hang out with many years ago and they all seemed to want to tell me if they or any member of their family were elders,m.s's,pioneers ect.. karter..
is there ea list anywhere of the changes that have taken place in last 5 years.
i ask this because in what i consider some form of "hail mary" my elder father who has not spoken to me in a forever tells me he knows that tone of my hangups was the fact that there were a lot of changes.
he said that as far as he knows that there have only been 2............................... i am aware of a number of them but is there a comprehensive list anywhere on the net?.
