Posts by FayeDunaway

I have done this myself, and I'm female. We had a very young CO, and I just wanted to help him. He gave me a look of shock. I don't know if cuz I'm female or if because it was new for him. I also did this with missionaries. My husband isn't the generous type so it had to be me!! And neither of us were the least bit ambitious. Really felt for the people, that's all. We weren't brown nosers either. I took special pleasure out of being contrary to CO's, not agreeing with everything they said, if I didn't agree.

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Ray Franz was an Idiot

by vinman in

ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

in search of christian freedom?

FayeDunaway

But many many people on this forum don't do that, and are respectful. Steve2 is respectful unless something REALLY gets to him, and then he's still respectABLE. Vinman try to focus on good stuff. And maybe take a break from here for a while if you need to.

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Ray Franz was an Idiot

by vinman in

ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

in search of christian freedom?

FayeDunaway

Steve2 likelikelikelikelikelike!!!!!!

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Ray Franz was an Idiot

by vinman in

ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

in search of christian freedom?

FayeDunaway

He's making a statement. I believe vinman likes Ray Franz but is stating that he was a Christian, so why don't people here call him an idiot.

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Ray Franz was an Idiot

by vinman in

ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

in search of christian freedom?

FayeDunaway

I think vinman's point is, most here admire this man, yet many here are very strong in their anti Christianity and anti theist stance.

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Ray Franz was an Idiot

by vinman in

ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

in search of christian freedom?

FayeDunaway

Either you are being ironic or you have multiple personalities!!

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What Convinced you to Leave?

by LaurenM in

i've been posting here a lot, but these last few weeks have been very difficult for me.

anyways, lately, i've been thinking about confessing everything i've done to the elders and going back, but deep down, i don't really think it's the truth...so my question is, what convinced you it wasn't the truth and that leaving wasn't a horrible decision that everyone in the truth makes it out to be?

FayeDunaway

I'm thinking you feel really alienated these days, and kind of in a state of limbo. I don't know if you still live with your parents and how much control of your own life you have, but you need a friend or counsellor to talk to who is not a witness. We apparently aren't doing it for you, you need a one on one in real life. I don't know what the appeal of the elders is for you, but it sounds like you are feeling lonely and desperate and lost. Can you walk into another church and talk with the pastor there? Anything, but you need to talk to someone.

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Helen Keller is not a hero

by StopTheTears in

jw
friends

few realize just how wicked some of the most revered people in history were.

helen keeler (1880 to 1968) was a wolf in sheep's clothing, no hero.

keller was a communist.

FayeDunaway

Not a single person is all good or all bad. Despite what you wrote above, I think helen Keller was MOSTLY good. And she didn't live to see what the negative aspects of communism were, like you have. Stop thinking in black and white.

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Help me Out Here

by vinman in

i've been out about 9 months.

and yes i am still obsessed with anti-watchtower material.

i've been married 23 years.

FayeDunaway

Vinman some people on here left the JW's in the 60's and 70's! They don't seem to be constantly obsessed with this site, but they do pop in regularly. Maybe in the process for us, there is a transition from mostly needing support to mostly giving support, as our lives stabilize. We are here for eachother. This is all pretty new for you. You've been through a really huge trauma. Don't be hard on yourself. You are going through a midlife crisis right now, and that's ok. I understand you don't want to shock your wife. But you know what, GET that motorcycle. You don't have to buy the whole 'im so tough' motorcycle gear...but do get some protective clothing. Invite your wife along. Make sure you get one with a comfy back seat. And then take some awesome little road trips together. Be very cautious and safe of course, but it's time to do something you love.

also, look into your community college, see if there's anything you want to learn about. Painting class, ceramics, photography, music, history. You've got your own time now. If you occupy yourself with hobbies, you will obsess less about your past and move on with your life. I like you here and hope you still visit often, but you need to balance this with your current life interests. I believe you still have to go to meetings so exploring other churches might not be an option for you now. I know you are still a believer like me, read C.S. Lewis. Actually the Narnia series was a part in me waking up. I read it to my children.

Lol I love listless witness' comment about being a doorbell/doorpost/front garden connoisseur!!! Yep.