FayeDunaway

Joined

• started 5 topics
• posted 2,065 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by FayeDunaway

• 
  24

  What not to say...

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys.

  i was recently talking to a old friend who is a very active elder.

  i was talking about ' the truth' and he suggested i sounded like an apostate because i used terms like ' the society' and ' watchtower '.. i am aware that ' dubspeak ' has changed over the years and i am pretty sure that someone posted about it here but i can't find the thread.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  FayeDunaway

  LHG I always call it "the religion" too.

  I think the current acceptable term among themselves is "the organization." Which actually sounds freakier.

  what the heck is wrong with "the society"? Is it just outdated, like "new order"?
• 
  40

  Wife is Awake

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  following the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.

  i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.

  i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  FayeDunaway

  Soooo happy for you, fmf!!!! Patience paid off. Have a happy first Valentine's Day together :).
• 
  38

  What Was Your Favorite Kingdom Song?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  funny but for whatever reason, i can't stop singing walking in integrity from the old songbook!

  it's in my head and in my opinion it was one of the few songs i really liked..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  FayeDunaway

  Loyal love was my favorite when I was little. Then later it was Jehovah is our Refuge.

  Muddy, I particularly enjoyed your post.

  Now that I'm in a regular church, I love Great is thy Faithfullness and How Great Thou Art. O holy Night is my favorite at Christmas. I used to sing Silent Night too, secretly, once a year. My own private Christmas celebration lol.
• 
  24

  Why Jehovah's Witnesses are WRONG about Christmas

  by David_Jay in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as you know (and are probably tired of hearing me repeat), i’m jewish.

  yes, i was a jehovah’s witness when i was a teenager and into my 20s, but returned to my roots and now celebrate chanukah when the holiday season comes around each year.. so why am i writing about christmas?

  well, that’s because i thought i would share something about how jehovah’s witnesses teach against christmas.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  FayeDunaway

  Nice OP, David, and Carol, I agree. The pagans knew what they were doing, having a celebration of lights during the darkest days of the year. And that Christianity has incorporated these things, the evergreens and holly, I actually mark that as one of the better times in Christianity. It was good of the church of that time to be inclusive, and it's interesting to me how well the themes of life and light and rebirth tie in so well with Christmas and Easter. Brilliant, really, and beautiful.
• 
  53

  Did anyone vote yet?

  by NewYork44M in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i voted today in nyc.

  a well organized process.

  very busy and most of the people voting were african american.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  FayeDunaway

  Wasanelderonce, "witnoid", I love that!!

  i was a strong Bernie supporter. Started liking Hillary more at the convention. She's not perfect, but pretty good, and very qualified. I already voted, and I was very proud to vote for the first viable female candidate. If she wins, it will be a big moment for me and all American women.

  American politics though has made an exceptionally ugly turn of late. The country is divided 50/50.

  I just can't believe half of them would vote for a fascist, but some don't learn from history. Short memories. Not only a fascist but a Russian stooge of a fascist. A Russian stooge sexist racist bigoted narcissist white supremacist-backed greedy monster fascist. Not to mention his other character traits. But, whatever. Maybe witnesses are right and it IS the end of the world.
• 
  38

  Were Conventions, Asemblies and the Memorials boring to you?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  conventions always just seemed like more of a vacation to me than anything else, especially if you had to travel out of town for it, but definitely were exhausting especially toward the end of each day.

  for some reason i didn't mind the special and circuit assemblies too much, probably because they seemed like more of a social event than anything else and only 1-2 days.

  the memorial always was kind of boring to me.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  FayeDunaway

  An event that was our only Christmas, where the most exciting part was seeing what disfellowshipped people with maybe even a beard showed up, and YAY we got to pass a glass of wine and plate of crackers down a row. Memorials were dreadful.

  Conventions, where you got new clothes, were fun, only for the socializing and making and serving lunch, until they took that away too..but when we had kids, and tried to contain them in the same hard seat for all freaking day while a voice droned on...and on....and on.....pure hell.
• 
  22

  Feeling very lonely

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the past few months i've been feeling really depressed and kind of hopeless.

  the few people that actually were a little bit friendly to me at the hall recently moved away, and i'm feeling like more of an outcast than i already was.

  every meeting i just stand by myself by the wall and nobody cares, i feel really lonely and unloved.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  FayeDunaway

  Hoping that you can be patient with this lonely time in your life, BW. It's so difficult. Please don't let it spoil your schooling...that is so important for you so that you can escape this stuff. You sound really depressed. So sorry you are going through an especially rough patch.
• 
  13

  Community Outside of a Religious Setting

  by What Now? in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is the one thing that i have struggled with since leaving the organization.

  i recognize the need and value of belonging somewhere, being a part of something, showing up weekly to a community where me and my husband and children are loved and utilized and incorporated and cared for.

  a place where are my kids qualities are nurtured and encouraged , and then reigned in and developed when needed.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  FayeDunaway

  I found a traditional church family home and from it have everything that was good about JW's and none of the bad. But it sounds like you want very non traditional! Lisarose recommended the UCC and that is a good one, but if you don't want to do the Jesus thing, I recommend the UU's....Unitarian Universalists. They are really liberal and family oriented and teach values. What is "right" is multidirectional...There are some amongst them who are Christians, Jews, spiritualists...you name it....they don't consider any way the only way. They are the opposite of judgmental and sort of hippie and fun. We go to some UU stuff and always end up hearing or being involved in deep philosophical or political or scientific discussions. These aren't shallow people, they love to think and think openly. I think you may enjoy them.
• 
  50

  Elder asking for help

  by untruth in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is my first time posting on here so i’m not sure where to start.

  i’m trying to keep it as short as possible since i could expand much more.

  i’ve been in the process of waking up in the last year and a half.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  FayeDunaway

  I am not sure if someone else has said it, but I would stick as closely as possible to the Bible if I was pointing something out to her that is contrary to witnesses. You will need to do a lot of research. You may need to get out the kingdom interlinnear somewhere down the line. But use the Bible. Eventually you may be able to show outside research from random websites (not apostate anything, ever..until she's well out mentally.) Be slow (I know it's hard! You want to start living your own life finally!!!!) but be slow, or your family will be more jeopardized.

  It seems like there is much more glorification of the GB since I've left, their word seems to be considered on par with the Bible now, so this is going to be tricky.

  Maybe more than specific doctrine, tho, is a change of outlook. Opening your eyes lets you see people in a different light. You see the genuineness and goodness in people who are not witnesses. Maybe make comments to your wife about people who you know who are good people who are not witnesses, and share a more positive vibe with her regarding living in the here and now. And most importantly, shower her with attention and affection, so she never needs to doubt that you love her.
• 
  58

  What's The First "Worldly" Thing You Did When You Exited The Cult?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.

  for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.

  i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  FayeDunaway

  James, I was constantly looking over my shoulder. When we celebrated Christmas the first time, I put the tree in an odd corner of an odd room that no one could see from outside the house. When I went to church, I parked where no one could see and recognize the car. Halloween, I figured we were safe since any witnesses were hiding in their basements :).

  Now, instead of being scared that someone will see us, I'm like 'look, you see this Christmas wrap in my cart? See these ornaments? Aren't they pretty? I can do this, and you can't!'