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  Chance or intelligent design?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

  i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Yes the Bacterial flagellar motor has to have been designed

  very intelligent design

  no way could have come about without intelligence
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  Chance or intelligent design?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

  i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I agree Vidqun

  To have code one needs to write code. DNA can’t write itself.
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  Chance or intelligent design?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

  i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Evolution by natural selection is chance at the start.

  Cofty I was quoting another member Vidquin from the last page.

  my question is - something possible by chance (the origin of the simplest cell) should be possible to recreate in a lab?

  but no you can never get something from nothing.

  im talking right at the start the origin of life, the very first simplest cell, or the very first thing that is supposed to have evolved into the simplest cell.
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

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  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  It does feel like the silence is deafening

  youd think there is no way they could just ignore the elephant in the room and just carry on

  but they did this with the three other gb members and they did it with 1975 just as they did it with millions now living will never die and many other elephants in the room
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

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  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  It’s not a hack or someone inside like a mole just like the mole in the art department put secret images in publications for years

  no this is real

  ant mo has also been removed for list of gb members

  but his civid updates dates haven’t been taken down yet
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  Chance or intelligent design?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

  i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  “It is possible to reconstruct aminoacids in a lab, but not possible to make twenty aminoacids and then to connect and fold them into proteins. ”

  If something was possible by chance then it would be possible in lab?
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  Chance or intelligent design?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

  i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Please note the word ‘simplest’

  meaning there could not have been an even more simple cell before hand

  so the question is how did the simplest cell come about to start with?

  I did read all the posts but forgive me it requires so much mental gymnastics and sounds baffling. The truth should be simple.
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  Chance or intelligent design?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

  i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  coftyan hour ago

  the complexity coming over billions of years argument can’t apply to the simplest cell.

  Why not?

  Did you read my post above about endosymbiosis? Did you think about it or do any further reading? Do you want actual answers?

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  yes I want answers, the simplest cell is still incredibly complex. Let’s start with this how could the simplest cell have come about by chance?
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  Chance or intelligent design?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

  i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Yes I’m PIMA, physically in mentally agnostic. Sitting on the fence but I find the Bible very interesting to study in depth. As well as many other books including those that argued Darwin’s chance theory that something came from nothing.

  Agnostic means one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god. : a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something. political agnostics.

  I am unwilling to commit to either intelligence or chance as to the origin of the universe, until evidence is overwhelming.

  At the moment there still is no overwhelming evidence of the theory of evolution.

  If this theory was true there real should be overwhelming evidence that is easy to understand and not the bullshit baffled brains technique.

  So much mental gymnastics are required with Darwin’s theories or indeed new updated theories about something coming from nothing by chance.

  I know full well this can be said from intelligent design side also, that God came from ‘time indefinite’ but there has to be something that never had a beginning or else what was before that?
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  Is there really any universal issue of Sovereignty?

  by Linda14 in

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  i can agree that satan doesn't see god as a good ruler as stated at gen 3:1-5. he doesn't seem to see gods laws as right or good.

  but whether there is an understanding/agreement between god and satan afterward to the effect that he can take the mantle of rulership to show whether his style is best is doubtful.

  that conclusion is probably reached because god hasn't destroyed satan, and he is also called the ruler of the world in the bible.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Edenone this is why I’m PIMA

  one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god. : a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something. political agnostics.

  I am unwilling to commit to either intelligence or chance as to the origin of the universe, until evidence is overwhelming.

  At the moment there still is no overwhelming evidence of the theory of evolution.

  If this theory was true there real should be overwhelming evidence that is easy to understand and not the bullshit baffled brains techniques