Abaddon the destroyer is he Jesus?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

rev 9:11 the angel with the key to the abyss is called abaddon which means destroyer.. the cross references show jw doctrine teaches he is jesus himself using the account in luke where jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss.

and revalation 20:1 shows an angel with the key to the abyss.. either watchtower are right and it’s jesus or there are more than one angel with the key to the abyss.. if it is jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like conan the destroyer.. from the research guide-abaddon, the angel of the abyss—who is he?.

at revelation 9:11, however, the word “abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” the corresponding greek name apollyon means “destroyer.” in the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as emperor vespasian, muhammad, and even napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” it should be noted, however, that at revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be god’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls satan into the abyss.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

It’s always a good idea to compare translations

king James

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

Revelation 9:11

ESVThey have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit. His name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon.

NIVThey had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer).

NASBThey have as king over them, the angel of the abyss; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name Apollyon.

CSBThey had as their king the angel of the abyss; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he has the name Apollyon.

NLTTheir king is the angel from the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is [Abaddon,] and in Greek, [Apollyon]--the Destroyer.

KJVAnd they had a king over them, which isthe angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
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I can see why some people may think this angel with the key to the abyss could be Satan, by way would Satan hold the key to the abyss? That doesn’t make sense. What does make sense is that Jesus would hold the key to the abyss and Satan is in there with his demons.

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Know your flock

by road to nowhere in

wife sick longtime, in hospital now.

elduhs came when i was out.

informed her there is a zoom provision, which she has used 3 years now.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I know why they did that, all of us elders have been told to make sure everyone is displaying their name and if possible their pictures on zoom.

elders at the meeting are told to actually sign into zoom during the meeting at KH and check who is there and who is not in their group. Then they make notes and at the next elders meeting they say who is on zoom and if they are really able to come to the meetings.

Cancer, serious illness can’t be milked forever so we are told

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Put me down for 499 for august

I think he will lose another 10% by September patreoff 👏

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Kingdom Services Selling Old Junk

by Chevelle in

what a pathetic state if affairs.. https://used-tools-equipment.com/.

are they really this clueless and desperate?.

most organizations would just toss this stuff in the trash bin..

ExBethelitenowPIMA

The old London Bethel which has been sold to a Jewish millionaire are still selling off junk to this day.

Watchtower House on the Ridgeway has been sold but the new owner has made some kind of a deal to have JWs still look after the place.

apparently there are around 30 volunteers everyday doing maintenance and security and maybe slowly dismantling and selling off all the old equipment there.

it’s mostly sold on eBay, yes watchtower has many eBay accounts and they always say free delivery and ask volunteers from local congregations to do all the deliveries 🤦‍♂️

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Abaddon the destroyer is he Jesus?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

rev 9:11 the angel with the key to the abyss is called abaddon which means destroyer.. the cross references show jw doctrine teaches he is jesus himself using the account in luke where jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss.

and revalation 20:1 shows an angel with the key to the abyss.. either watchtower are right and it’s jesus or there are more than one angel with the key to the abyss.. if it is jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like conan the destroyer.. from the research guide-abaddon, the angel of the abyss—who is he?.

at revelation 9:11, however, the word “abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” the corresponding greek name apollyon means “destroyer.” in the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as emperor vespasian, muhammad, and even napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” it should be noted, however, that at revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be god’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls satan into the abyss.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

The account in Luke where Jesus asks them what is their name and they say Legon as we are many, this account shows Jesus is the angel with the key to the abyss.

they are frightened of him that he will throw them into the abyss now?

is there more than one angel with the key to the abyss? Both Jesus and Abaddon are two entities? No I think they are one and the same.

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Anthony Morris the III has been FOUND

by Terry in

jw
friends

note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.

a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.

the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

TOMO3 Furuli author of my beloved religious beliefs 🤣😂

Seriously we should all write to him with a little gift and we should all tell him that if he wrote a book he would be a millionaire within a year.

If he wanted to do interviews he could earn a nice little income and live a comfortable life equal to the one he lived as a GB member.

now we have his address we really should bombard him with letters and little gifts just like the JWs we’re told to do in the past many times.

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Abaddon the destroyer is he Jesus?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

rev 9:11 the angel with the key to the abyss is called abaddon which means destroyer.. the cross references show jw doctrine teaches he is jesus himself using the account in luke where jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss.

and revalation 20:1 shows an angel with the key to the abyss.. either watchtower are right and it’s jesus or there are more than one angel with the key to the abyss.. if it is jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like conan the destroyer.. from the research guide-abaddon, the angel of the abyss—who is he?.

at revelation 9:11, however, the word “abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” the corresponding greek name apollyon means “destroyer.” in the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as emperor vespasian, muhammad, and even napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” it should be noted, however, that at revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be god’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls satan into the abyss.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Rev 9:11 the Angel with the key to the abyss is called Abaddon which means destroyer.

The cross references show JW doctrine teaches he is Jesus himself using the account in Luke where Jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss

and Revalation 20:1 shows an Angel with the key to the Abyss.

Either Watchtower are right and it’s Jesus or there are more than one Angel with the key to the Abyss.

If it is Jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like Conan the destroyer.

from the research guide-Abaddon, the angel of the abyss—who is he?

At Revelation 9:11, however, the word “Abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” The corresponding Greek name Apollyon means “Destroyer.” In the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as Emperor Vespasian, Muhammad, and even Napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” It should be noted, however, that at Revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be God’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls Satan into the abyss. Commenting on Revelation 9:11, The Interpreter’s Bible says: “Abaddon, however, is an angel not of Satan but of God, performing his work of destruction at God’s bidding.”

In the Hebrew scriptures just considered, it is evident that ʼavad·dohnʹ is paralleled with Sheol and death. At Revelation 1:18 we find Christ Jesus stating: “I am living forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.” His power with regard to the abyss is shown at Luke 8:31. That he has destroying power, including the power of destruction over Satan, is evident from Hebrews 2:14, which says that Jesus partook of blood and flesh in order that “through his death he might bring to nothing the one having the means to cause death, that is, the Devil.” At Revelation 19:11-16 he is clearly represented as God’s appointed Destroyer or Executioner.—See APOLLYON.

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Anthony Morris the III has been FOUND

by Terry in

jw
friends

note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.

a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.

the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Some properties owned by the Borg are very humble, some are very grand and ostentatious.

Some have huge chandeliers all high quality not cons. These are for the top dogs and the very high ups that the rank and file never find out about. Just like Bethsharim and other mansions for the big wigs.

the safe houses for normal special pioneers are more humble looking and the places for disgraced former members of the governing body

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Anthony Morris the III has been FOUND

by Terry in

jw
friends

note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.

a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.

the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Ten to one they eventually move him to a more private and secure gated community now that his address is out there.

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They have many safe houses all over the world. All COs, special pioneers and high up Bethelites can go there at any time.

Some special pioneers rent their homes and the branch pays for everything or sometimes it’s bought by the branch and different ones are moved in and out depending on many factors.

When I was in Bethel I once was asked to report to transport department as I would be giving up my normal work for a day to do some moving. It was one of the Branch safe houses up north or London, we had to move a lot of personal items out and someone’s else’s moved in. I had no idea what it was all for but now I think about some of these assignments there were some odd things going on.

one time an elderly big wig had us all drive a long way to have lots of things loaded into the vans and then we delivering them to a nice looking bungalow. I’m the type to keep asking what it was for and who lived here and we were just told to get on with it no answers to any of our questions.

Tomo3 is very prominent but how many other less well known big wigs are sent to one of these safe hours to be special pioneers with a very low hour requirement which explains why they are hardly ever on the min

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James Barrett cover up

by Lookwhatimade in

hey i’m new here and looking for possible information if anyone can help?.

there have been previous chats are here regarding the james barrett child abuse cover up in rugby congregation over 20 years ago.

another name has now come to my attention that of michael (mick) pickard of asking young boys very inappropriate question and then leaving them with a much older boy who was “confused” by his sexual orientation who would then abuse them.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Don’t know about Mick pickard but that sounds like a former Bethel Elder called Mike Porter who was dinning room overseer and a high up Bethel elder when I was in Bethel.

It was later revealed he had abused many many children even babies and I think he went to prison for it. And to think all those years he was a bethel elder shocking

I don’t know if he has anything to do with what you are taking about

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