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  Anthony Morris the III has been FOUND

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.

  a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.

  the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Br Chitty sounds very interesting, where can I find out more?

  Is his story similar to TOMO3? Why was he removed from the GB?

  Was Chitty still anointed and was he still an Elder?
  
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  Joanie the Jehovah (sic) Witness Stripper

  by Mum in

  1. social
  2. humour

  on youtube, type "joanie the jehovah witness stripper" in the search bar.

  several versions of the song will appear.

  it's hilarious, and, apparently, based on a real life jw who was a neighbor of the song's writer..

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I remember hearing about a couple of pioneer sisters I think one was married to a brother, anyway they went on pioneer school together and hit it off so to speak.

  The married one left her husband to start this lesbian relationship with the other pioneer sister and then they got into porn.

  They obviously got disfellowshipped but then they were posing with the revelation book showing it’s ‘grand climax at hand’

  I think the one sister was called Donna Petch and don’t remember the name of the other sister.

  anyway this was over 20 years ago and it caused quite a stir at the time.

  if course we all said we didn’t look at the pictures 😆
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  Anthony Morris the III has been FOUND

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.

  a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.

  the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Does anyone remember a talk he gave where he said something along the lines of his father asked him where did all his money go? His father was asking him where all his inheritance is going to and what are “they” doing with it all.

  he said to his dad “I’m part of the “they”

  everyone laughed
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  Abaddon the destroyer is he Jesus?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  rev 9:11 the angel with the key to the abyss is called abaddon which means destroyer.. the cross references show jw doctrine teaches he is jesus himself using the account in luke where jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss.

  and revalation 20:1 shows an angel with the key to the abyss.. either watchtower are right and it’s jesus or there are more than one angel with the key to the abyss.. if it is jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like conan the destroyer.. from the research guide-abaddon, the angel of the abyss​—who is he?.

  at revelation 9:11, however, the word “abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” the corresponding greek name apollyon means “destroyer.” in the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as emperor vespasian, muhammad, and even napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” it should be noted, however, that at revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be god’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls satan into the abyss.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I would advise don’t spend too much time worrying about the exact meaning of these cryptic things that could have just been the wild ramblings of a bunch of men.

  Yes they could be Gods word but why is it so cryptic and nonsensical?

  maybe just maybe, the Bible is a book written by a bunch of men and they all had different ideas.

  Im still agnostic so it could be Gods word or maybe it isn’t.

  Rev 9:11 is a good example of vague cryptic words that don’t translate well and modern humans all have different ideas what it means and what it could all be.

  Even if the Bibles promises are all lies, or perhaps there is a bit of truth in them but we have the wrong understanding completely?

  Im agnostic so will not commit either way. But this line “wife needs her hope, even if it's a lie” - this Could well apply to agnostics as well.

  I genuinely believe the hope that the Bibles promises give is a benefit and a comfort. I have this hope even though I’m open to the possibility that it’s just a book written by a bunch of men and maybe evolution is how the universe started.

  Or maybe it is Gods word but all this business about locusts and abyss and the one named Abaddon holding the key is the king over them. What does that actually do for you in the real world?

  nothing.

  it could mean many many things or it could mean nothing.

  your guess is as good as mine or as good as watchtowers guesses.
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  Know your flock

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wife sick longtime, in hospital now.

  elduhs came when i was out.

  informed her there is a zoom provision, which she has used 3 years now.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  “ wife needs her hope, even if it's a lie.”

  This is such a profound line.

  Even if the Bibles promises are all lies, or perhaps there is a bit of truth in them but we have the wrong understanding completely?

  Im agnostic so will not commit either way. But this line “wife needs her hope, even if it's a lie” - this Could well apply to agnostics as well.

  even if someone is fully PIMI all they have is a hope of the Bibles promises coming true. I have this hope as well being PIMA.

  Im an elder and have some in my group who have not been to meetings for many years but occasionally come on zoom or come to the memorial. I’ve tried to arrange a shepherding visit and asked many times can we call round or invited them to witness gatherings but they never come.

  I genuinely believe the hope that the Bibles promises give is a benefit and a comfort. I have this hope even though I’m open to the possibility that it’s just a book written by a bunch of men and maybe evolution is how the universe started.
  
  
  
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  Anthony Morris the III has been FOUND

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.

  a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.

  the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I love the way you say watchtower if you are reading this🤣

  do you think there are brothers on the service desk who really are assigned to keep an eye on apostate stuff?

  if that’s the case then surely they are not fully PIMI anymore?

  I doubt anyone is assigned to view apostate things, but sure enough many of the top dogs do in secret.

  how long has it been since the announcement about TOMO3? All these months I wonder if he has purposely not looked at anything at all about himself?
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  Abaddon the destroyer is he Jesus?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  rev 9:11 the angel with the key to the abyss is called abaddon which means destroyer.. the cross references show jw doctrine teaches he is jesus himself using the account in luke where jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss.

  and revalation 20:1 shows an angel with the key to the abyss.. either watchtower are right and it’s jesus or there are more than one angel with the key to the abyss.. if it is jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like conan the destroyer.. from the research guide-abaddon, the angel of the abyss​—who is he?.

  at revelation 9:11, however, the word “abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” the corresponding greek name apollyon means “destroyer.” in the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as emperor vespasian, muhammad, and even napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” it should be noted, however, that at revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be god’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls satan into the abyss.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Or maybe just maybe, the Bible is a book written by a bunch of men and they all had different ideas.

  Im still agnostic so it could be Gods word or maybe it isn’t.

  Rev 9:11 is a good example of vague cryptic words that don’t translate well and modern humans all have different ideas what it means and what it could all be.

  Watchtower are very arrogant and now they have said that Abaddon is Jesus they are stubbornly sticking to it.

  this really does show the cryptic nature of the scriptures and it can be bent or twisted to suit.

  Watchtower think they are Gods one only channel on earth, and their 8 million followers truly are brainwashed into genuinely believing everything the GBody say without question.

  If they say Abaddon is Jesus and not Satan then that is the end of it, it has been settled and all other Bible scholars are wrong because the governing body can never be wrong.

  by the same token the vaccines are safe and effective because the governing body can never be wrong
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  Abaddon the destroyer is he Jesus?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  rev 9:11 the angel with the key to the abyss is called abaddon which means destroyer.. the cross references show jw doctrine teaches he is jesus himself using the account in luke where jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss.

  and revalation 20:1 shows an angel with the key to the abyss.. either watchtower are right and it’s jesus or there are more than one angel with the key to the abyss.. if it is jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like conan the destroyer.. from the research guide-abaddon, the angel of the abyss​—who is he?.

  at revelation 9:11, however, the word “abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” the corresponding greek name apollyon means “destroyer.” in the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as emperor vespasian, muhammad, and even napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” it should be noted, however, that at revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be god’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls satan into the abyss.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Easy yes you could be right, this is another case where watchtower disagrees with almost everyone else when they say Abaddon is Jesus.

  one translation even says Abaddon came out of the Abyss so that doesn’t sound like Jesus?

  rev9:11

  ?NLTTheir king is the angel from the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is [Abaddon,] and in Greek, [Apollyon]--the Destroyer
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  Abaddon the destroyer is he Jesus?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  rev 9:11 the angel with the key to the abyss is called abaddon which means destroyer.. the cross references show jw doctrine teaches he is jesus himself using the account in luke where jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss.

  and revalation 20:1 shows an angel with the key to the abyss.. either watchtower are right and it’s jesus or there are more than one angel with the key to the abyss.. if it is jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like conan the destroyer.. from the research guide-abaddon, the angel of the abyss​—who is he?.

  at revelation 9:11, however, the word “abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” the corresponding greek name apollyon means “destroyer.” in the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as emperor vespasian, muhammad, and even napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” it should be noted, however, that at revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be god’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls satan into the abyss.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Hahaha that’s hilarious I will remember that one.

  They have always said he is a good un?

  I think Watchtower have always said Abaddon was Jesus? Please show me if they ever say he was Satan.

  pretty much every other Bible scholar thinks Abaddon is Satan
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  Abaddon the destroyer is he Jesus?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  rev 9:11 the angel with the key to the abyss is called abaddon which means destroyer.. the cross references show jw doctrine teaches he is jesus himself using the account in luke where jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss.

  and revalation 20:1 shows an angel with the key to the abyss.. either watchtower are right and it’s jesus or there are more than one angel with the key to the abyss.. if it is jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like conan the destroyer.. from the research guide-abaddon, the angel of the abyss​—who is he?.

  at revelation 9:11, however, the word “abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” the corresponding greek name apollyon means “destroyer.” in the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as emperor vespasian, muhammad, and even napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” it should be noted, however, that at revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be god’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls satan into the abyss.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  ExBethelite,

  No, I disagree. Jesus is to become king of the Messianic kingdom over the earth. God is Sovereign of the Universe.

  God’s kingship of the universe is to time indefinite, even forever (Ps. 10:16a; 29:10b; 146:10 NW; Jer. 10:7, 10; Zech. 14:9, 17; 1 Tim. 1:17; cf. Rev. 15:3; 19:6). Jesus’ Messianic kingship is to have an enduring future, i.e., a thousand years (Ps. 45:6, 17; 1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 20:3, 4).

  yes Jesus is king of Gods kingdom. It makes sense looking at Rev 9:11 that Jesus would be called the king over them.

  Jesus is the angel with the keys to the abyss this is clear and concrete