Posts by ExBethelitenowPIMA

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

There are now more excess deaths above baseline than during the pandemic

Yet mainstream don’t mention it, I wonder why?

Gov Body hope the Jdubs keep their blinkers in

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Witnesses were Anti vaccine till 1950!

by Witness 007 in

"brother mcmillan wrote "faith on the march" about his wonderful life at bethel.

he wrote of an incident in 1943 where a group of witnesses in jail for refusing military service were against getting vaccinated and he came to the rescue visiting them and telling them it was ok. the reason for this was "the golden age" magazine in the 1920's describes vaccines as puss filled poison...so they were following their watchtower training..

ExBethelitenowPIMA

It seems now that if you are anti vax you are as good as apostate.

If you think vaccines are not safe and effective then you are calling the governing body liars.

When elders are talking about brother’s qualifications if they are antivax then they no longer qualify for privileges. I wonder if even more discrimination and discipline in the future ??

then when the truth becomes common knowledge that these vaccines were not safe and effective but in fact the polar opposite by a long way, it will then be obvious the direction to be fully vaccinated was harmful

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I wonder if there will be an article on JW.org entitled “Why so many excess deaths since the vaccines?” Or “Don’t believe the antivaxers”

Or will we get another WTower article saying “Follow direction from the GB even if you don’t understand why” here is the first paragraph-

1. Why should you follow direction from the governing body even if you don’t agree with it?

1. During the pandemic there was a lot of disinformation and it was hard to know what was true and what was not. The faithful and discreet slave class received direction from Jehovah that it was safe to take the vaccines and this is why it was on all the updates and broadcasts to be fully vaccinated. Some doubted these vaccines were safe or effective but are we not so pleased that we have direction we can trust so that we know for sure that the vaccines are safe and effective? In the future if there is direction that is hard to understand we just need to think back to the direction to be fully vaccinated and how safe and effective this direction was.

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

RB yes the emperor new clothes really fits here.

Even a child can see now that hardly any excess deaths during the plandemic but such a fuss was made, and now after the vaccines excess deaths are going through the roof, but not a squeak about it anywhere

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Secret Box to be opened on November 6

by Chevelle in

does anyone know what this is about?.

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ExBethelitenowPIMA

I’m sure someone will open it and the truth will get out before November

but then again I thought that about ToMo the turd. And still nobody knows if he is still a brother still anointed or even if he and his wife are still attending meetings

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I keep thinking when something comes out wow this is huge, now we know for sure that they were not safe or effective. But no, there seems to be some kind of mass psychosis in the general public and even more concentrated in JWs.

Cognitive dissonance means they couldn’t possibly consider the jabs were harmful because the direction was from Jehovah to be fully vaccinated. This means there is no possibility that the jabs were dangerous and extremely harmful because that would mean Jehovah was wrong.

It really is that black and white.

The time will come when it’s common knowledge that these jabs have hurt and killed hundreds of millions of people who took them and then it will be clear that Jehovah’s direction was wrong.

or that the humans who claimed the direction was from Jehovah were wrong and Jehovah would be very displeased with them for giving such wrong direction and hurting so many people.

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Agnostic people often say that they are very open to the Truth regardless what that Truth is. But someone in your situation need to pretend and lie on daily basis. I don't know if you or anyone finds the Truth this way. That just my opinion. For me GB pushing that experimental treatment was also clear signal that they are on the wrong side. But I decided not to support them and I just faded. Although I struggle oftentimes I still got faith and I'm sure God will bring justice. If you like studying the Bible I recommend Psalm 73 in this regard. Best wishes

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Person thanks for being the this thread back in point 👏

I know for sure the gov body were wrong to give direction to be fully vaccinated but that doesn’t mean they are wrong about everything.

I think they are very imperfect humans living in a Bible and have no idea about real life in the real world.

The Bible is a very special book and the JWs in my opinion have the best grasp of it. All the intro videos of each new book and all reference guides and pictures.

I personally love study the Bible and using JW as well as any other good sources

I also love the weekly Bible reading we go deep on about four chapters per week and give comments at the meetings

many in my cong like to go really deep and we talk about the weeks Bible reading all week long. Many find things that I didn’t know and very interesting.

we are not afraid to say this doesn’t make sense? Or I don’t understand this? And eventually we all get to the bottom of it.

I haven’t told anyone my thought on the direction to be fully vaxed but reading between the lines I think a growing number are coming over to my way of thinking.

I hope one day it is common knowledge that the GB made a very big and very serious mistake pushing the lethal injections

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Syd if humans slowly evolved from something over billions of years then we should find human skulls in various degrees of evolution? Archeology has found other fossils older. But no we only find human skulls and all skulls and fossils of non extinct creatures are the same as today. No evidence of evolution at all in the fossil record.

This is why I’m agnostic

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Does the Governing Body already know that Jehovah (the name) came from Babylon the Great?

by Chevelle in

i'll start by stating the obvious... according to the watchtower, the catholic church is a huge part of babylon the great which is led by satan and his demons.

raymundus martini, a catholic monk (who "represents" babylon the great to some extent), woke up one day in the 13th century and decided to alter yhwh so it can be easily pronounced.

hence the spanish-ish version of yhwh was created... jehova... (sounds something like this in spanish: heh-o-va).

ExBethelitenowPIMA

YHWH the divine name can be translated many different ways.

Exactly the same with every other name in the Bible translations many differ.

All name starting with J. Jesus, John, Job, Jonah……. And all the other names starting with J.

The J is next a guess really because there were no J’s in the original.

All names starting with J or not came from Babylon the great. They may not be quite right but they may be the best that can be done.

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Link between relationships and health/happiness

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

even though i’m agnostic so will not commit to either intelligent design or chance, i love being part of the congregation for the close personal relationships.. there is such a great atmosphere inside the congregation it really is like a family and you don’t get this anywhere else.. a real friend is someone you can rely on when you are in need.

if things go wrong for you and you are going through a hard time you know real friends will be there for you.

as long as you didn’t bring it on yourself by going against gods law then you have to prove you are repentant first of course.. there is a lot of research now saying that good friends is essential for healthy and happiness.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

SydBarrett9 hours ago

"Some now say it wasn’t monkeys humans evolved from, well whatever it was before full humans,"

We share a common ancestor with monkeys, and if you go back far enough we share a common ancestor with crocodiles, oak trees, moss and snails.

We didn't "evolve from monkey's" any more than a bald eagle evolved from a sparrow. They share a common ancestor.

I didn't evolve from my 6 year older 2nd cousin. We are two branches of a family with a set of great grandparents being our common origin. So it is with life on earth as a whole.

-Im genuinely interested are you saying some humans evolved from one animal and other from another. Or do you think all humans today evolved from one animal possibly monkeys?
I suspect evolutionists don’t think it through. Whichever animal we did evolve from where is all the archeological evidence of half human skulls?
Once proof can be shown evolution is not a theory anymore but at the moment no proof has been found. Don’t you think that is unusual if this happened over billions of years and we have found other fossils older than that?
This is why I’m agnostic