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  Reddit post about elder asking congregation for money to fix his car!

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, there’s a post on reddit.

  it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.

  this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  There was a real problem with people leaving last will and testimony to the Borg, unbelievers who thought they would get something in the will from their older relatives found out everything went to the Borg

  I was involved with teams who went in the bethel vans to do house clearance of older ones who died and left everything to the Borg

  I have talked about my friend Peter Bullock who worked closely with Jewish dealers to sell anything valuable that was left in the will.

  when I was at Bethel there was a vault full of gold and jewellery even fine art. I suspect the big wigs get first dibs on anything and for them it’s voluntary donations how much they give for that expensive watch or something else that was donated. They may not give anything and nobody would know they could just go into the vault and take what they wanted.
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  An interesting book

  by joao in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  can anyone tell me the reason why jw.org has never mentioned this book: the obedience of a christian man, by william tyndale?

  i mean, they talk and write articles about his translation of the bible, about him being against the pope, etc.

  so, why didn't i ever read or hear about this interesting book?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  They always said he was 144k

  it doesn’t make any sense because they say there were thousands in the first century and then there were many Bible translators and other through the centuries who were burned alive and other things who are part of the 144k

  now there are many many thousands in the last few hundred years and they are still reporting tens of thousands who take the emblems today
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  Reddit post about elder asking congregation for money to fix his car!

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, there’s a post on reddit.

  it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.

  this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Ex Bethelite.

  Since when get SP’s their rent, car and bills (what kind of bills) paid?

  I have been a SP before being a missionary and all we received was an allowance and we had to pay everything with that money. “Living the good life”? Are you joking? I had two work a day a week just to not starve.

  Reading your posts I sometimes wonder

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  Fulano Reading your posts I sometimes wonder but I guess you have been out a long time.

  Im good friends with a special pioneer couple in my congregation and I can confirm what I said is correct and you are wrong currently

  What you said may have been right back in the day but now you are wrong and I am right.

  Its life on east street for them. The branch gives them a car which they take to the branch for it to be serviced. They have a really nice house which they have rent and all bills paid

  they have an allowance but never have to buy much as the congregation feeds them and pays for them all over the place
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  Censuring medicine and information; our new culture.

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  'last night's flccc weekly update featured stories of families who fought in court to compel hospitals to give their loved ones ivermectin.

  that it has come to this is tragic.

  63 studies have now shown ivermectin’s efficacy in all stages of c19 disease.'.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  “Wonder if $ was given to Watchtower too? @ 22:15 ”

  This is huge. Yes its easier to take silver than lead.

  Threaten or bribe.

  Well in the case of the vaccines there was so much money involved all along the line it was a case of both.

  All organised religions went along with pushing the vax. This was partly from threats and partly other incentives like tax exemptions and the like.

  I really thought at the start of the madness that the Borg would remain neutral. Then we started getting word that each vaccine did not contain blood so it was ok to take.

  Next thing we had very forceful direction to be fully vaccinated and then they pushed the propaganda every month with the gov body updates which should have been called the “please keep taking the vaccines” updates.

  David Spain even said about keeping yourself fully vaccinated “you may wonder what these brothers know, wrong question. What does Jehovah know”

  They gave the Biblical example of that one chap who was told to go bath in the river to be cured of his illness and said all we have been asked to do keep taking these injections!
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  Reddit post about elder asking congregation for money to fix his car!

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, there’s a post on reddit.

  it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.

  this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  All these ones who have been kicked out of Bethel over the last decades due to selling up the expensive city real estate have all been returned to the field.

  The congregation has been asked to support these ones. Elders often have a vote to use congregation funds to help these ones

  special pioneers get their rent, car and bills paid and get an allowance for living the good life.

  they have such an easy life going to ministry groups everyday and then getting invites back for refreshments every day, they have no work to do it’s just a life on easy street
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  Guaranteed way not to get disfellowshipped

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if it’s looking like someone may be disfellowshiped or announced they are no longer a jw and they don’t want to be shunned they just want to fade without being shunned - just say that would make me suicidal .

  simple.

  in the new shepherding book it says if they say that then don’t go ahead with it.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I love the sound of that can come and go as you please……..

  This is very profound.

  Many people could now actually express doubts in the governing body. They could actually say I think the governing body are wrong about 1914 and the 77 week prophecy. In the past this would be disfellowshipping actions.

  But now we all know the loophole if you are invited to a JD you just have to say if I go to that it will make me sducidal

  then nothing more will happen but you may have lots of elders wanting to keep talking to you
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  PIMA usually means Agnostic but I suppose it could mean apathetic.

  Most people who are busy in their lives are generally apathetic but they haven’t got time to research.

  Most people at some time in their lives think about the big questions often after a tragedy or losing someone.

  There is a fine line between apathetic and agnostic. I’m not apathetic because I would be interested if someone found the missing link or some other new discovery that could prove chance theory.

  but at the end of the day both sides arguments can each be used to point towards chance or intelligence. So I’m agnostic which means I won’t commit until proof can be presented which I doubt it ever will be.

  This is what makes life so interesting 🤔
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  Samson kills 1,000 Philistine military men with a donkey's jawbone...I think not!

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | september 2023. study article 37. rely on jehovah, as samson did.

  4 consider an example of samson’s trust in jehovah and of the support that god supplied.

  on one occasion, a philistine military force had come to capture samson at lehi, evidently in judah.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  “ So the Bible itself warns us not to take the story of Moses's 10 catastrophes against Egypt or the story of his separation of the Red Sea. ”

  Where does the Bible say this?

  I didn’t know it told us not to take these miracles literally?
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  Guaranteed way not to get disfellowshipped

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if it’s looking like someone may be disfellowshiped or announced they are no longer a jw and they don’t want to be shunned they just want to fade without being shunned - just say that would make me suicidal .

  simple.

  in the new shepherding book it says if they say that then don’t go ahead with it.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Yes the less said the better.

  Some really do manage to fade by just stopping coming to any meetings or ministry and avoiding all JWs for a couple of years.

  They would have to avoid replying to any anyone in the congregation and hope they don’t run into anyone and they would have to somehow avoid the elders attempts to come and talk to them. Sometimes elders wait outside their workplace or their home trying to ambush them and get them to say something anything at all that can be twisted and used against them.

  This is why moving away for a while is a good tactic

  sometimes elders make something up based on something they said.

  if all else fails and the individual really doesn’t want to be shunned then just say they are feeling suicidal

  once everyone knows this there should never ever be anymore shunning ever again 😀
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  Guaranteed way not to get disfellowshipped

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if it’s looking like someone may be disfellowshiped or announced they are no longer a jw and they don’t want to be shunned they just want to fade without being shunned - just say that would make me suicidal .

  simple.

  in the new shepherding book it says if they say that then don’t go ahead with it.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  If it’s looking like someone may be disfellowshiped or announced they are no longer a JW and they don’t want to be shunned they just want to fade without being shunned - Just say that would make me suicidal

  simple

  in the new shepherding book it says if they say that then don’t go ahead with it

  https://youtu.be/iNGH_xoaZOk