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  Covid Vx likened to Jesus ransom

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this morning i decided to log into the local cong meeting on zoom, during the public talk the speaker likened the covid vx to jesus ransom sacrifice, saying that those who didn't avail of the vx, the 'anti vaxxers', are just like people who refuse to put faith in jesus.. i felt sick, knowing my unvxed but active jw parents were sitting there, i logged off immediately.

  surely such talk is pure blasphemy or am i just over reacting?!.

  i appreciate your thoughts, it will hopefully help me to approach my jw family with facts and logic, i'm praying they wake up fully and 'get out of her', i know they have reservations that's why they refused the vx..

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Pete you still act like an apologist for big pharma?

  They said we did not force anyone to get the jab but that is a lie. No jab no job is forcing someone

  No jab no Kingdom ministry school is also like forcing
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  Covid Vx likened to Jesus ransom

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this morning i decided to log into the local cong meeting on zoom, during the public talk the speaker likened the covid vx to jesus ransom sacrifice, saying that those who didn't avail of the vx, the 'anti vaxxers', are just like people who refuse to put faith in jesus.. i felt sick, knowing my unvxed but active jw parents were sitting there, i logged off immediately.

  surely such talk is pure blasphemy or am i just over reacting?!.

  i appreciate your thoughts, it will hopefully help me to approach my jw family with facts and logic, i'm praying they wake up fully and 'get out of her', i know they have reservations that's why they refused the vx..

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  No distortion of facts necessary pete.

  They said follow the direction from Jehovah’s channel the faithful and discreet slave, and they say stay fully vaccinated. They even ask coordinators to check that all elders are fully vaccinated upto date with all boosters.

  The truth is now clear the fully unvaccinated have better immune systems and have much less symptoms from covid. The more vaccines you have the more you damaged your health
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  Covid Vx likened to Jesus ransom

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this morning i decided to log into the local cong meeting on zoom, during the public talk the speaker likened the covid vx to jesus ransom sacrifice, saying that those who didn't avail of the vx, the 'anti vaxxers', are just like people who refuse to put faith in jesus.. i felt sick, knowing my unvxed but active jw parents were sitting there, i logged off immediately.

  surely such talk is pure blasphemy or am i just over reacting?!.

  i appreciate your thoughts, it will hopefully help me to approach my jw family with facts and logic, i'm praying they wake up fully and 'get out of her', i know they have reservations that's why they refused the vx..

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  What a shocking but excellent video.

  And to think they still haven’t done a U turn on vaccine mandates for all the schools!

  They absolutely have to give an update on the direction soon, otherwise the rank and file will keep following the old direction to stay fully vaccinated every six months

  https://youtu.be/o9-OqUugFm0?feature=shared
  
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  GOVERNING BODY: the role of CONSISTENCY in identifying malpractice and malfeasance

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  consistency plays a crucial role in determining the inherent truthfulness of statements and sources.

  reliability of information: if a source consistently provides accurate information, it builds trust and is considered reliable.

  inconsistent information, on the other hand, can lead to doubts about the source’s credibility.. .

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Terry I’m trying to read the text you posted about vaccination but I can’t read it on my phone, is there any chance you could cut and paste that please?

  Also does anyone have the newer quotes about vaccination from the 60s?

  I remember during the pandemic they had an article mid quoting a 1960s watchtower, they took some words out of context trying to say they were pro vaccine back then, but if you read the context it was not

  It may have been that one Awake 8/22/65
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  GOVERNING BODY: the role of CONSISTENCY in identifying malpractice and malfeasance

  by Terry in

  1. jw
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  consistency plays a crucial role in determining the inherent truthfulness of statements and sources.

  reliability of information: if a source consistently provides accurate information, it builds trust and is considered reliable.

  inconsistent information, on the other hand, can lead to doubts about the source’s credibility.. .

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I think you are right Terry. They have had legal advice after the train wreck Royal commission where Br Jackson was asked do the GB claim to be gods channel on Earth. Since then they had to come out with new light saying the GB are not inspired.

  But they still want everyone to follow their direction like it’s from jeh
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  Who will be killed at Armageddon?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.

  but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?

  it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  1. Resurrection Doctrine: It used to be that if you were disfellowshipped and died before Armageddon you would be resurrected unless you were really bad. Now, they are saying pretty much everyone will make it through and then during the 1000 year reign everyone can decide if they want to live in paradise

  This changes everything. All those unbelieving spouses that the baptised spouse thought would die at Armageddon, now we are told they won’t die after all.

  This sounds hilarious but it’s true, a lot of sisters with unbelieving husbands thought they just had to endure him a little longer and then they would get a new husband in the new world and now they have been told they will have their current one make it through. 😭

  I don’t think the GB really thought this through. They are so confusing and inconsistent
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  GOVERNING BODY: the role of CONSISTENCY in identifying malpractice and malfeasance

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  consistency plays a crucial role in determining the inherent truthfulness of statements and sources.

  reliability of information: if a source consistently provides accurate information, it builds trust and is considered reliable.

  inconsistent information, on the other hand, can lead to doubts about the source’s credibility.. .

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  1. Resurrection Doctrine: It used to be that if you were disfellowshipped and died before Armageddon you would be resurrected unless you were really bad. Now, they are saying pretty much everyone will make it through and then during the 1000 year reign everyone can decide if they want to live in paradise

  This changes everything. All those unbelieving spouses that the baptised spouse thought would die at Armageddon, now we are told they won’t die after all.

  This sounds hilarious but it’s true, a lot of sisters with unbelieving husbands thought they just had to endure him a little longer and then they would get a new husband in the new world and now they have been told they will have their current one make it through. 😭

  I don’t think the GB really thought this through. They are so confusing and inconsistent.
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  Who will be killed at Armageddon?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.

  but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?

  it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  But there is the problem no zombie, they do say they are Jehovahs channel on earth. They do say you need to be baptised and just hope that maybe unbaptised children of baptised parents will make it. This is what the GB say.

  this was a control mechanism just like hellfire doctrine other religions use.

  if now they are saying “we can’t be dogmatic and we just don’t know, we are not inspired or infallible”

  they lose that control mechanism!
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  Who will be killed at Armageddon?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.

  but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?

  it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  If the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and Sodomites will be resurrected?

  but didn’t he mention at the AGM something about there is no point Jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?

  It seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother Jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”

  my biggest question over this, to JW apologists who say other good unbaptised people will also make it, what about all the unwell children and especially orphans? Will they make it but not their parents? Then there is the problem that they will live with the knowledge that Jehovah murdered my parents? Or will they be resurrected? Then why kill them in the first place? Seems like a lot of unnecessary killing from a merciful God.

  At the AGM they kept saying we must not be dogmatic but if they change the doctrine to you don’t need to be baptised to make it then that changes everything, and this does indeed seem to be what the new light is?
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  Jehovah's Witness Retirement Homes and Senior Care

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/jehovahs-witness-retirement-homes-and-senior-care/ar-aa1jrvoa.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  That video by Skeans bragging about how many ex-full time JWs are there. I guess there's no room for the rank and file.
  

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  who pays for their care? When UK bethel moved a few years ago the lucky ones got to stay in the infirmary and the unlucky older ones were kicked out to fend for themselves