I thought I saw a post on hear about the Elders book being out there on PDF format? Has that post been removed or can someone kindly please remind me where it is? :) at the time there seemed to be a problem with the link to it or something, and now I cannot find it at all. If someone was able to download it, is it possible to get it from a different source? thanks in advance all.....
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I thought I saw a post on hear about the Elders book being out there on PDF
by researcher ini thought i saw a post on hear about the elders book being out there on pdf format?
has that post been removed or can someone kindly please remind me where it is?
:) at the time there seemed to be a problem with the link to it or something, and now i cannot find it at all.
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How does the Ransom Sacrifice work? A Primer
by Terry inin judaism, only the offended party can forgive you your sin.
you must make amends or pay a fine.
that is why murder cannot be forgiven; the deceased is not around to accept your apology or restitution!.
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Jesus didnt die for Adam. The way the ransom works, as explained way back in the old book "Aid to Bible Understanding", known better as the Aid book, is that Jesus had the potential to marry and father a perfect human race that would of eventually been equal in number to the imperfect human race that Adam fathered. So when Jesus died, a potential perfect human race died in his loins with him. It is that perfect potential human race that died when jesus died that was the ransom. Jesus did not die for adam, his potential perfect human race died for Adams imperfect human race. Regardless of what you think of the Watchtower, the explaination of the ransom this way is the only one that ever made sense to me anyway. Hope this helps.
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Jesus never used the name Jehovah???
by Mrs Smith inmy hubby and i have been doing a lot of bible reading are we correct by saying that jesus never once used the name jehovah?
if the name is so important surely jesus would have used it?
the jw's say that jesus was the greatest teacher and that we should follow his example so why are they using a name that jesus did not once refer to.
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There is the scripture thats says of Jesus in a prayer saying "I have made your name known to them"...... John 17:26 So it is logical that Jesus did use the name 'Jehovah' in his ministry and to his disciples. Hope this helps........... :)
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-11-07 WT Study (APPRECIATIVE)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 03-11-07 wt study (february 1, 2007, pages 17-21)(appreciative).
review comments will be in red.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
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I got a question to pose regarding a couple of sentence" toward the end of this study article ...."True, the brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers. (2 Tim. 3:16) And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18).... hmmm, seems to me that in a couple of other threads on this site there was some discussion regarding comments in a recent WT and the Revelation book that the "resurrected anointed ones" , including those resurrected since 1918 have been "directing" or "messaging" in some way to those of the current faithful slave..... If thats true, then there would be no corrections, cause would we seriously feel that this type of direction would be given in error???? just food for thought... :)
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For the kids is it better to stay married and miserable or...?
by brunnhilde in...get a divorce and at least have a chance at happiness?
my husband and i would never have gotten married if we weren't both in the borg.
now we're both out and we have nothing in common.
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Not to make light of this topic, but I heard of a couple, he was 98 and she was 97 and they were filing for divorce after being married for 71 years!!!! The reason.... they only agreed to stay together as long as the kids were alive...... ;) I think the lesson in this is, to stay together in an unhappy, uncompatible and stifling relationship only hurts the kids because they know mom and dad do not like each other.... they grow up and wind up in the same ruts. How many of you folks out there know of 'witness' husbands or wifes whom left their marriage, got divorced, and are after not to short of a time back in good grace, even serving as elders etc and actually enjoy being married now? [thats if they chose to stay in the org that is]
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Transference of Energy
by researcher ini have been informed that an elder's wife is involed with a certain type of "medicinal treatment" that among other strange things, includes a 'transference of energy'.
in other words, the elder's wife can work remotedly on other people's medical conditions, without having them present.
another wife of a different elder in the same congregation wrote a letter to the service desk in canada about it, and the result was the ciruit overseer met with the elder and his magically endowed wife, and encoraged her to not focus on the stuff that seemed to bother some in the congregation, etc... hmmm, if the person was not the wife of an elder, they would normally have certain priveliges removed etc...... any comments on this?
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Hi all,
I have been informed that an elder's wife is involed with a certain type of "medicinal treatment" that among other strange things, includes a 'transference of energy'. In other words, the elder's wife can work remotedly on other people's medical conditions, without having them present. Another wife of a different elder in the same congregation wrote a letter to the service desk in canada about it, and the result was the Ciruit Overseer met with the Elder and his magically endowed wife, and encoraged her to not focus on the stuff that seemed to bother some in the congregation, etc... Hmmm, if the person was not the wife of an elder, they would normally have certain priveliges removed etc...... any comments on this? I am told it is happening in Edmonton, Canada..... I have been given the names, more than happy to share in private email, pm etc...
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Edmonton, alberta scandle with an Edmonton employee and Jw
by researcher ina friend of mine, mentioned there is an edmonton city employee who is an emergency medical technician who is also a jw who is facing 4 very serious assault charges including sexual assualt, and who is a member of the sherwood park maples congregation, and who is being protected by the elders of the maples congregation who even allegedly lied to the rcmp when questioned............ the po named terry h is the ringleader who lied to the rcmp and who is protecting the edmonton emt.....
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anyone else hear of this??
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Yes, i can supply names. Hmmmmm,, there is a soup company by the same name. :)
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Edmonton, alberta scandle with an Edmonton employee and Jw
by researcher ina friend of mine, mentioned there is an edmonton city employee who is an emergency medical technician who is also a jw who is facing 4 very serious assault charges including sexual assualt, and who is a member of the sherwood park maples congregation, and who is being protected by the elders of the maples congregation who even allegedly lied to the rcmp when questioned............ the po named terry h is the ringleader who lied to the rcmp and who is protecting the edmonton emt.....
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anyone else hear of this??
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A friend of mine, mentioned there is an Edmonton City Employee who is an Emergency Medical Technician who is also a JW who is facing 4 very serious assault charges including sexual assualt, and who is a member of the Sherwood Park Maples Congregation, and who is being protected by the Elders of the Maples congregation who even allegedly lied to the RCMP when questioned............ the PO named Terry H is the ringleader who lied to the RCMP and who is protecting the Edmonton EMT..... ??? anyone else hear of this???
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Current Policy re informing of DF
by researcher injust curious,.
i have been out of the loop for a bit, but what is the current policy re informing a person that they "are no longer a jw"?
are they still required to make x attempts at contacting, then sending a registered letter etc.... or can they simply announce the name.....??
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Just Curious,
I have been out of the loop for a bit, but what is the current policy re informing a person that they "Are No longer a JW"? Are they still required to make x attempts at contacting, then sending a registered letter etc.... or can they simply announce the name.....???
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Wordage for Appeal Letter
by researcher inhi all, .
there have been some good appeal letter wordages on this site, however since the site is not at the moment searchable, would appreciate any links to these letters,,,, i know there on the site, i have read them, but cannot find them at the moment :) thanks in advance,,,,,,,,for your assistance,,,,
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Hi All,
There have been some good Appeal letter wordages on this site, however since the site is not at the moment searchable, would appreciate any links to these Letters,,,, I know there on the site, I have read them, but cannot find them at the moment :) Thanks in advance,,,,,,,,for your assistance,,,,