Posts by caves

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What Is Your Favorite Decade or Time Period to Live In?

by minimus in

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some people say this decade is the most advantage and so they are happiest in the present.

some long for the good old days before cell phones and computers.

if you could live in an era or decade , when would it be?.

caves

I have several. I suppose the 90's decade for me before tech took over everywhere. But just enough tech to make it exciting. I was in my late teens and early twenties, when I was still naive and innocent enough to make sweeping excuses/generalizations for many things. Music was still good across the board mostly, except perhaps country music that really started to morph into something I would not personally call country. Yet there were still a few good country artist left. Lots of interesting music sprung up in that decade.

If I were to pick a time period, I would probably say the late 1800s. Steam engine Locomotives were still going strong and that would have been exciting. Horse and buggy was still a main mode of transportation for the masses.I love horses and I love wagons and carriages. Cars were starting to be invented and I imagine that would have been exciting. Also the life style of living off the land was normal and no one would have looked at me any different if I said I had a cabin in the mountains. Since there were not radios there would be a lot of quite times to listen to nature. Also I can imagine the thrill of going to see a live Concerto and those sounds blissfully playing in my ears days and days after. Clothing and tools would be made of stronger quality. Also the satisfaction of using hand tools, making your own home. Growing your own garden, having chickens,ect without someone thinking a thing of it. It would have be the norm. Books would have been amazing to read. Things like the writings of Jules Verne would have been simply mind blowing.

Also I'd probably be pretty okay with living as an indigenous person in the Andes mountains, now or hundreds of years ago. Half naked with some bamboo wrapped around... umm , urrr the lower regions of the body.

I would love to be able to see first hand how it was to live 5000 years ago, knowing me I could see myself as a stoic of sorts that was forced to drink poison like Socrates. lol.

There are still places on this planet that are generations behind, so if I should live long enough perhaps I will be able to put myself in one of those places. Like 'rural' Romania, Mongolia, Argentina, Switzerland, Chili, and more.

Thanks Minimus for posting this question. It took my mind to fun places.

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is this real? Wife got an email from here group elder about daily check in's

by goingthruthemotions in

so this elder is super brainwashed, as is his wife.

she actually made a comment that she wished antmo 3 was her dad and that he is so cool.

oh my god, i threw up in my mouth.

caves

the girl next door-They're trying to flatten their own curve with a daily nagging reminder.

Bam!!! This^

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What do JW's believe about the Anti Christ? Been out for 20 years, don't remember lol...

by bobfish in

i was watching a video saying with tongue in cheek saying that trump was the antichrist listing all the scriptures and prophecies... was kind of funny but it made me wonder what the heck do jw's believe?

was it that it's other religions or some such garbage?

i don't seem to recall it being a specific person but honestly i don't recall at all.

caves

I remember when I was little (the 80's) and the Antichrist seemed to be every newly elected president. Even on up until now. My, how they twist themselves into a pretzel.

Ask them about it after that persons term in office is over and its like one of their eyes start twitching and then its suddenly a taboo topic that shouldn't be discussed despite the fact they themselves were circulating the gossip to begin with.

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Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?

by AlainAlam in

do you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?

as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..

caves

AlainA- I could only conceive of their errors being either "honest mistakes" or "done with evil intent". I couldn't see evil intent, so I figured they were honest mistakes.

"Honest mistakes" usually get corrected after by the person or entity doing them, especially if said "mistakes" harm others and its something that keeps happening. In the case of the GB I'm sure we have all lost count! Child molestation cover ups repeatedly as one of many examples.

"Done with evil intent" would be a failure to rectify any "honest mistakes" that have caused and continue to cause harm. At some point one can only conclude that, A. They are completely retarded in every literal sense of the word. B. The cover up of their many lies both to the governments/authorities and the very members of their 'religion' are to cover the massive inadequacies of the ever changing doctrinal beliefs over time and to save themselves as an organization or rather "as gods mouth piece", as they advance it. I'd call that evil intent!

I'd also call your posts the last 24 hours highly baited. The reason is to many questions to which you are searching for someone to echo what you think and flat out tell people you will ignore their logic until it coincides with points you are asserting. Or lack thereof.

That is how its coming across. IMO.

But, I'm always open to correcting my perception. So long you recognize I am entitled to mine. As you are to yours.

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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

by Simon in

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this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

caves

I just wanted to say that unfortunately for my brain before I had a massive panic attack. I had gone to each state (online) and as many counties as I could to look at their local news. Many counties are not even being counted in the number of positive COVID-19 cases and deaths. The numbers are far higher than they are saying. Many of those states are locally posting headlines pleading to be counted to get a more accurate number. This doesn't surprise me, but it sure broke my heart.

As I tried to do the math it became glaringly obvious that the numbers of cases and deaths are no where close to whats being reported. I got through about 11 -12 states and easily hit the numbers that they are saying for the entire US.

We have a long way to go.

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Have You Isolated Yourself Because of the Virus 🦠?

by minimus in

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some people i know have not gone out of their houses in weeks.

some will walk near their homes and run right back in.

meanwhile, i go food shopping and i see tons of people, many with masks and gloves on..

caves

Minnimus-Caves, please don’t give up hope

I'm a little better, I think.

I'm sorry everyone. I was at the beginning of a bad panic attack that lasted all night and half of today. I have been watching to many news outlets from all over the states and the globe, then searching for a spot in the mountains if it comes to that and sent me over the edge. I just have to back off for a bit.

Again sorry for not catching the signals sooner. I only realized I was in the beginning throws of a panic attack right after I posted. How embarrassing. So sorry. Stay safe everyone.

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Have You Isolated Yourself Because of the Virus 🦠?

by minimus in

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friends

some people i know have not gone out of their houses in weeks.

some will walk near their homes and run right back in.

meanwhile, i go food shopping and i see tons of people, many with masks and gloves on..

caves

yes, and it taking its toll. I don't think I will survive this.

i went yesterday to near where my pets are buried in the mountains to see if its still excess-able, Its where i lived during the worst of the ptsd attacks. its a hell of a road but i doubt anyone would find me for a long time.

i went to check out spots to live or hunker down if i cant stay here.may not choose that spot but its still excess-able. since the state is stopping people from going into parks ect... lots of old logging roads not many are familiar with. As I sat there yesterday i never thought it would be a possible reaity for long term living. Not like this. depression/anxiety and panic is setting in despite my best efforts. i want to disappear for good this time.

listening to nature, and its high enough that I pick up a canadian jazz station in bc. yea.

not doing so well.

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UK Government web site - Covid 19 is no longer an H.C.I.D.

by The Fall Guy in

"as of 19 march 2020, covid-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (hcid) in the uk.. now that more is known about covid-19, the public health bodies in the uk have reviewed the most up to date information about covid-19 against the uk hcid criteria.

the advisory committee on dangerous pathogens (acdp) is also of the opinion that covid-19 should no longer be classified as an hcid.

" https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid.

caves

LV101, At this point in time I'm sure most of us posting have food, water and basic necessities. This might be a good time to remind ourselves of the billions of people still living on the planet that cant even get a drink of water without wondering if they will die from it. Our great great grandparents made it through times we could not even imagine. Yet we are here, still. I understand the panic. I've been having panic attacks all week and my neighbor shot himself Sunday eve due to being completely overwhelmed. Its , exhausting. We are all right there with you LV101. I hope you can find moments of peace during the odd days ahead.

That goes for all of you.

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Legal Concerns About "Zoom" Meetings!

by Atlantis in

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this whole "zoom" thing has got me wondering whether some of it is legal or not.

if a person has to dress up for a zoom meeting the way the watchtower dictates, doesn't this really go "beyond" cult?.

even the cults who committed mass suicide were able to dress the way they wanted for their meetings.

caves

I think its wine time for this dude! And not that memorial crap either.

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Legal Concerns About "Zoom" Meetings!

by Atlantis in

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friends

this whole "zoom" thing has got me wondering whether some of it is legal or not.

if a person has to dress up for a zoom meeting the way the watchtower dictates, doesn't this really go "beyond" cult?.

even the cults who committed mass suicide were able to dress the way they wanted for their meetings.

caves

In my opinion this is really old old old news.

Context [Longer than the actual point ]- Much to at least one posters surprise (private issue) just because I got involved in tech( Smartphone specific) a bit behind, due to my years in the mountains, I dove into tech/IT laws and the lack of them along with all the implications. Pre-Mountain days during 1999 and most of the 2000s I attended privately held conferences on tech industries and what they were collecting and doing with the rise of the "free" internet and our data. (Which facilitated my "off the grid-ness")(wanted no part of it after what I learned). When I came back "on the grid" like I said, I dove back in. Or rather it seemed sortof crammed down my throat.

In 2012-2014 I had two major accidents. One left me bed ridden for a few months and the other after I recovered from the first left me bed ridden for over half a year. I committed all my time(literally all of it) to hacking, which companies do collect info (literally all of them) even your supposed private browsers, how much, how secret, what up coming merging companies were doing, where it was going, smartphone technology, applications and their applications, what we were actually agreeing to,.. ect. It was overwhelming how fast we all just gave it up to have a flipping smartphone /tablets /notebooks ect. Well, in our defense, we were lied to for a long time. I digress.

Bare w/ me...

In a nut shell if you have a device that connects to the internet EVERYTHING can be tracked, traced, recorded, your pics, your contacts, all your emails, texts, videos, voice, when and what you type (even if you erase it [backspace out] and don't post it) your location [even if its turned off], every tiny detail of what you do is forever on a server/servers somewhere. Even things you may not even suspect, like your blue-tooth speaker, if done right can be hacked and can get everything on the smartphone you used or device all running in the background without so much as a blip in your operating system(to your eyes). Banking..you name it. If there is a blip, it not a good hacker.

There are not many if any big/ mid/ small tech companies that have not been sued and or in continuous lawsuits over privacy and collection of data. Its all just about money and finding loopholes now.

I can go over some of the things that were in these conferences but it would be moot in 2020. It is pretty much common knowledge to anyone with an interest in IT. There is absolutely nothing you or I can do about it.

Hacking evolves just as fast as the internet itself, so the hacking I learned while bed ridden gave me a decent template to add to my classroom or rather private conference knowledge (another moot point) as I lost interest and had to work and just couldn't keep up if I wasn't getting paid for it.

To cut it short or "no flesh would be saved" ugh, lol, couldn't resist....

I wouldn't worry about Zoom at all. Don't want to be seen?, cover your lens. The government, I can assure you, doesn't give a rip about jw meetings. But I would mostly be concerned with a person in the Zoom meetings that CAN hack, knows how, and does it.

Again if your worried just cover your camera lenses with dark tape. It is pointless to worry.

Could have stopped it 20 years ago. That was then, this is now.

I would worry more about social distancing and keeping food on the table and yourself clean and healthy.