an emergency meeting has been called by jack dowson at london bethel.
all co's and do's were recalled yesterday and are meeting at 2pm today in bethel (most have left the visiting congregations in limbo.
the meeting is today(starts at 2pm), tomorrow and finishing on friday at 12 noon.
How do we know this happened?
Don't forget the march on Brooklyn, September 27, 2002 - Be a part of History and do your part for the Lambs!
RevMalk Speaks - You cannot DF All of the people all of the time, BUT, you can DF most of the people some of the time.
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
Carl and Rosemary have been divorced for years. I think she got sick of his crap.
Vannessa was one of the daughters, I can't for the life of me remember any of the others.......one had a rock band, most left the "Truth"
They actually had three boys and two girls, maybe more, they had a whole mess of them (I'm thinking maybe even 3 girls)
PRATT!!
HAHA, beat you DAC
Don't forget the march on Brooklyn, September 27, 2002 - Be a part of History and do your part for the Lambs!
RevMalk Speaks - You cannot DF All of the people all of the time, BUT, you can DF most of the people some of the time.
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
Pete Nepus! They rented a house from Pete, now what the hell are their names?
Don't forget the march on Brooklyn, September 27, 2002 - Be a part of History and do your part for the Lambs!
RevMalk Speaks - You cannot DF All of the people all of the time, BUT, you can DF most of the people some of the time.
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
Hey I know these people. Sherry Innes' is related to some people in Saratoga. What were their names? He had a Pizza Shop in Schuylerville (SP?), kids all had red hair, the father ran the little girl over with the car in the Kingdom Hall Parking lot (she was ok). They rented a house from that Pete Guy, forgot his last name too, he worked at knolls atomic power lab, and moved away for a while then came back. Dammit, what's their names? I will think of it in a while.
Don't forget the march on Brooklyn, September 27, 2002 - Be a part of History and do your part for the Lambs!
RevMalk Speaks - You cannot DF All of the people all of the time, BUT, you can DF most of the people some of the time.
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
Edited by - RevMalk on 18 September 2002 9:43:52
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i have been informed on good authority (a dub for 27 years) that you cannot get disfelowshiped for committing a wrongdoing, only for being unrepentant.. can anyone tell me if this is true or not, and if it is not where the misunderstanding comes from?
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I DID go in there crying and begging for mercy, it's exactly what my parents presiding overseer told me to do. It got me nowhere, and I was falsely DF (No really). I still got the boot, so I busted the chairman/PO in the face with my cell phone, told him what I thought of him and stormed out kicking everything I could find.
That didn't make my appeal go any better :)
To hell with them I say, less donations I have to make.
Don't forget the march on Brooklyn, September 27, 2002 - Be a part of History and do your part for the Lambs!
RevMalk Speaks - You cannot DF All of the people all of the time, BUT, you can DF most of the people some of the time.
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
Edited by - RevMalk on 17 September 2002 19:4:41
here is a list of contradictions between what the watchtower society says and what the bible says:.
the watchtower says that judas iscariot left the lord's evening meal (memorial) before jesus instituted the new covenant and passed the wine and bread.. what does the bible say?:.
luke 22:13: they went, found things as he had told them, and they prepared the passover.
Although I agree they've messed up the Bible, I also have to concede that it wasn't in too good a shape to begin with. The Bible is not pure people, whether it's the watchtower that changed it or Jerome, it's been changed! From the very beginning. If you don't believe this, then you can't believe the Watchtower changed it. If they can manage it anyone can, and if God chose to allow them to do it then he'd have allowed anyone to do it. The Vulgate is widely believed to be the worst translation ever in History (besides perhaps the NWT). And guess what? The KJV was heavily influenced by the Vulgate, just take a look at Jerome's horrible translation of Isaiah's words. So, I guess my point is, although you can't trust the Watchtower version, how can you trust any. You can only take it for what's it's worth. Is God's message still there? Absolutely, just don't look too closely otherwise you'll end up spending years arguing whether or not Jesus is God or not, and you know what? That's not the important thing, serving him, worshipping him and loving him is more important.
Again, for what it's worth, I don't personally believe that Jesus is God Almighty, I do however believe that Jesus is Jehovah of the Old Testament. I believe that Jesus was the creator, I believe that he will return. I also hope that I'm not too busy arguing about who he is rather than knowing he's here when that time comes. The JW's can say all they want about the "Accurate Knowledge", and I will listen to them as soon as Christ is preaching from atop the mount of Bethel, Brooklyn NY.......until that time comes (I'm not holding my breath), then they're just a bunch of crooks trying to steal my eternal life and personal relationship with my savior away from me. So, no matter who Christ is, no matter if he's God Almighty, Jehovah the Creator or just the son of God, I know what he did for me, and I will never turn my back on him, and I KNOW he will never turn his on me.
LOL, you are RIGHT ON RevMalk, you said it all! The Society has corrupted or changed the meaning of just about each Scripture in the Bible -- all the good Prophecies apply to themselves, and all the bad Propechies apply to Christendom. They changed just about all Scriptures that said Jesus was God. They added words, took away words, even from the Book of Revelation (Adding the word "Jehovah" and taking away the words "The Lord").
Are you correct that the name of Jehovah was not intended to be in the New Testament? Absolutely, without a doubt. Why? Because Jehovah was walking the earth in the Human form of Jesus Christ. Was/is he God Almighty? No, not in my opinion. The Bible seems very clear on that, but also seems very clear that he was/is. So, through my own studies of the scripture and prayer, I believe that there's a compromise. Jehovah came to earth as Christ, can't even argue the point. The thing is, Jehovah himself is NOT God Almighty, and this is where all the confusion comes in. Is Jesus/Jehovah of a divine nature, not a created angel? Yes, absolutely, he is God the Father's Only Begotten, procreated, much different than any Angel in Heaven. Is he part of some kind of Trinity? Well, the Trinity is a funny term, everyone interprets it differently. I believe that Jesus/Jehovah has a divine power, along with the Holy Ghost, but God Almighty still containing much more power. So, on one hand there is a Godhead of sorts, acting as one, but all three still separate beings.
This is all based on my humble opinion, and my own studies of the scripture and prayer, as I've said. Does this mean I am correct and everyone else is wrong? No, of course not, pertaining to these things, we have a limited amount of knowledge, a limited capability of knowledge and a very limited amount of information to base those things on. The Bible has been adulterated, point blank, so the only thing we can do is believe what we believe, and worship the way we feel fit. Are the JW's wrong? In my opinion they are beyond wrong. Am I here to tell them they're wrong? Not until God tells me too (still not holding my breath). I certainly could not have it on my head if I caused one person to leave what they believe but God knows I am no Prophet, and I have no divine nature and I am not in a position to do so. And God forbid I caused someone to stray from their faith and they turned out to be right! Don't worry, I don't believe they are, but again, I am not God, and that is one of the few things you can base your faith on. We live in a world with all the information except what we need. So what do we do? Seek.
If God has his true Prophet on this earth today, what should we be doing? Seeking.
If God does not have his true Prophet on earth today, what should we be doing? Seeking.
That's it, that's all we can do. I listen to everyone and all, if they have the truth, I will find it. If they don't, it's sure to find me, haha. That's the trick in this life.....finding the truth, because it's not going to be handed to us on a silver platter.
I will be at the march on the 27th, please don't forget people!
RevMalk Speaks - You cannot DF All of the people all of the time, BUT, you can DF most of the people some of the time.
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
greetings from the uk!
we were invited to a conference to speak on sl issues and had a very productive weekend.
it appears many here are very aware of the abuse issue and want to get involved.
Thank you Grits for the kind words. Of course, like I told you, I only had a few minutes to work on that page, it's not my best :) I did want it to get out there before the march though, so as soon as I get the images and all that I can finish it, and Bill can either keep it where it is or move it to silent lambs or both.
Also, it is working now, but with no shipping charges, so if anyone is going to the march they can use it, just keeping in mind that the images are not depicting the correct item in most cases, as you pointed out. The shopping cart is going to Bill's account, so it should work perfectly. (Also the buttons on the right were taken from silent lambs and may not work correctly, or open the full pages, I didn't even have time to test them out)
Now, I just had a thought. When I mentioned above that the shopping cart can stay on both servers, I was thinking that all the more coverage would be great. So, what if we made a doorway page for Silent Lamb's Website, and we all ran around the web throwing it up on all the free servers we can find? Also, linking them together (which would be fairly easy, I have a webring script). The more doorway pages we have out there the better, for a number of reasons. One being that the more sites linking to Silentlambs the better for the search engines and such, and two the more chances someone will stumble on one of the doorway pages as they just surf the net. I have a million and one ideas, options, scripts, and the like to help promote. I do this for a living, so I have all sorts of tricks up my sleeve. (for instance I think we should all be printing the silentlambs.org web address and message on all our mailing envelopes {when appropriate}. This is a huge attention getter in business as I've learned. Of course this would require an approval from Bill as well.)
Anything I can do to help, I'm here.
I did notice one thing with all this, and I mean no offense to anyone. But the cause seems to be getting so big and so much attention that organization seems to be lacking in some aspects. I certainly don't think it's Bill's fault (or anyone's for that matter). I know it's hard to keep control of things especially when everyone has their lives to manage as well. For instance, how is anyone suppose to find pierpoint place in Brooklyn? I used to live in Flatbush, and I am from NY, but I don't even know where it is exactly. Will I find it? Sure, because I know the area well, but what about people coming from Alabama? I may have just missed something, but I find it nearly impossible to get information on a number of things. So, again if there's anything I can do in my limited time (that seems to be everyone's problem), please let me know.
I will be at the march on the 27th, please don't forget people!
RevMalk Speaks - You cannot DF All of the people all of the time, BUT, you can DF most of the people some of the time.
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
Edited by - RevMalk on 16 September 2002 10:28:44
"higher" education not needed in god's new order
in the june 8, 1967 issue, the awake!
magazine printed an article on pages 3-8 entitled "second thoughts about a college education.
You mean you weren't warning your fellow students that they only had a year left to live????
RevMalk Speaks - You cannot DF All of the people all of the time, BUT, you can DF most of the people most of the time.Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
here is a list of contradictions between what the watchtower society says and what the bible says:.
the watchtower says that judas iscariot left the lord's evening meal (memorial) before jesus instituted the new covenant and passed the wine and bread.. what does the bible say?:.
luke 22:13: they went, found things as he had told them, and they prepared the passover.
Sure,
I have a few I'd like to mention:
Genesis 1:1-Revelation 22:21
That's all I have, anyone else?
RevMalk Speaks - You cannot DF All of the people all of the time, BUT, you can DF most of the people some of the time.Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
