Posts by Skepsis

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Was it just me or was something different about the memorial last night?

by kpop in

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this was the first memorial that i declined to do any work for the memorial.

i was assigned as a parking attendant after getting downgraded from doing the sound and had no intention of doing either task but i had to attend for my family and continuation of my fade.

i sat there last night listening to the talk and couldn't help but shake my head as my brain attempted to process the bs.

Skepsis

I can only say what happened in my congregation.

Firstly, the campaing to deliver the invitations didn't cover all the territories so many 25%-30% of the invitations are stocked in the Hall and a lot of brothers said they haven't delivered all the invitations they got. This is happening in a foreign language congregation where there are bible studies. Elders are so worried that the Service Overseer insisted me yestarday to fake the numbers in the books to appear as all the territories have been taken by the brothers during the campaing and not to receive a complain by the CO during his visit next week.

And then, the spirit of the celebration was very grey. We had a visit from abroad of a couple that used to be in the congregation serving for years and no one wanted to have dinner after. Brothers were as in the rest of meetings during the year, nothing special.

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Between two worlds

by Skepsis in

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after knowing the ttatt i felt anger of all the lies i was told for years.

then, i did some changes in my life to the better.

i was doubting but felt relieved.

Skepsis

Yes, a lot of patience is needed to be present at meetings and with family and brothers. Sometimes it's hard not to say too much about what you really believe about the JW religion.

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Love

by Cold Steel in

comments?

stories?

reminiscences?.

Skepsis

I've seen a complete lack of love in the organisation since I was a child, particularly brothers and sisters in their 80s and 90s who from one day to another stop attending to meetings and then you find out they're in a elderly homecare where elders don't visit them.

But you know, there are a lot of things to do like visiting strangers who don't want to listen to you or make the general cleaning of the Kingdom Hall. Such things are clearly more important. 😡

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Between two worlds

by Skepsis in

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after knowing the ttatt i felt anger of all the lies i was told for years.

then, i did some changes in my life to the better.

i was doubting but felt relieved.

Skepsis

Hi everyone,

After knowing the TTATT I felt anger of all the lies I was told for years. Then, I did some changes in my life to the better. I was doubting but felt relieved. But now, I feel my fading is slowing.

I have to go to the meetings for the sake of my family and still be serving as MS. Despite that, all the doubts became certainties but I have still to pay lip service to the religion, nodding to everything coming from the platform and what is worst, having to pronounce lies from there.

At the same time, while I'm in this process of quitting the religion, I'm trying to adapt to the world. I made important changes (getting a better job, etc.) but I'm struggling with meeting new people. Also, I'm realising all the time lost in the religion. But being still inside makes me feel very sad. I feel like living in two completely different worlds.

In fact, last week it was the birthday of one of my colleagues at work and they planned to buy a cake. Then, at the office they sang "Happy birthday". I rejected to sing other times but I wanted to do it this time. I started singing it but felt so bad after it!

Don't know if it's normal for you who are fading now or faded in the past. I'm feeling so lonely. A colleague at work noticed it but I couldn't explain it all. How to explain it to someone that knows nothing about the JW world?

Did you experienced the same during fading? How are you managing it?

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What will you be doing on the evening of the 11th ?

by Phizzy in

mrs phizzy and myself will be eating out, sure in the knowledge we will not have jw's using the same restaurant.. i may have a cigar along with my brandy at the meal's end to celebrate my (our) freedom..

Skepsis

I will be passing the emblems, I hope for the last time in my life.

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Is it possible to decline preaching in the carts?

by Skepsis in

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hi folks,.

i have a difficult dilemma.

since i'm not pioneering any more, i'm reducing my hours wasted at that artifact known as cart or trolley.

Skepsis

UPDATED: I have declined being in the carts from next month as I'll be busy on Saturdays. Didn't give more details, just saying I'll be very busy all Saturdays.

Another step in my fading. I hated doing the carts, even when I believed all of this so I'm quite relieved. I also told the elders I'm not preaching during the week as I'm working long hours and can't go to the KH at time to attend meetings for field service.

An elder asked me to preach later but I rejected and told him "I'm finishing really late". I'll be in Field Service only on Sunday and only some of them.

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Pretoria resident says - before high court in South Africa - he is the anointed one !

by ZAPPA-ESQUE in

pretoria [ south africa] - an unusual urgent application served before the gauteng high court this week,in which a lyttelton manor resident, who said he is was known as the “anointed one” among jehovah’s witnesses, asked the court to officially swear him in as the worldwide leader of the organisation.. ernest gericke, in papers before the court, told judge bill prinsloo that the “first business of the christ is the legal establishment of the kingdom of god on earth, known as the jehovah’s kingdom.” .

gericke said this involved the the conducting of a covenant for a kingdom, which is to take place on april 11. .

“in order to effect the legal requirements for the kingdom this honourable court is requested to hear the public oath of the office of the king.

Skepsis

He has the same reasons to say it that the GB: none. So why not? ;)

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news... From ITALY

by biblexaminer in

an old friend, a "brother" called from italy.

updated on a few things.. most interestingly, he said they just had their final assembly at their "beautiful assembly hall".. why would it be the final assembly?

because it's sold!.

Skepsis

In my country , there are the same amount of publishers since 2002. I know no new one in my area and there are 8 congregation over here.

They're basically the same people but 15 years older. They divided congregations and now they're finding out there are no sufficient number of elders and especially MS to attend all the tasks.

I believe there are 8 mill pubs but not here in Europe nor the richer countries. Add to that, they're not present in China. So, they're growing in poor countries in Africa.

Not a good prospect for their finaces.

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news... From ITALY

by biblexaminer in

an old friend, a "brother" called from italy.

updated on a few things.. most interestingly, he said they just had their final assembly at their "beautiful assembly hall".. why would it be the final assembly?

because it's sold!.

Skepsis

They're doing the same everywhere. I guess they're into something. Probably the GB know the real numbers of JWs are falling or will fall deeply in some years and are selling properties before it's so obvious. Or maybe donations have been falling. Or a combination of both. Who knows...

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Are congregations in Spain suffering an increase in banking fees since Watchtower 'seized' their bank savings?

by jwleaks in

remember a few years ago watchtower literally 'siezed' all individual congregation bank savings around the world above what was needed to cover basic kingdom hall monthly expenses?

a new march 30, 2017, boe letter has just gone out to congregations in spain, which, more or less, explains that congregations bank account funds no longer entitle congregations to reduced banking fees.

(see copy of actual paragraph below.).

Skepsis

I'm living in Spain and I don't pay fees for banking transfers or most basic banking services. It's normal for corporate accounts but not for private accounts.

There are plenty of online banks out there and some are subsidiaries of traditional banks. Even if you have an account in a traditional bank when you have to pay those fees, you can go to the local agency to negotiate with the zone director for better conditions. For example, if you have your salary payed monthly, you may get no fees.