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trim line, rug doctor, janitoral bussines, lock smiths, roofers, car sales, book binding, catering, candle making: ....
shane
Nobody's mentioned Lady Love cosmetics. My Mom and a bunch of her 'sister' friends got involved in it in the 70s. One of those things where you recruit people and get a cut of their sales (ie, pyramid).
Don't know if the company was dub owned or not.
a friend and i were chatting tonight and he got on the subject of jw movie themes.
what if wts took over the film industry, what kind of movies would we see (using previous movie titles.
) it was entertaining and i knew you guys could come up with some good ones.. ted jarez and the chamber of secrets.
JW Trek II: Barbour's Revenge
JW Trek III: The Search For Russell's Tomb
JW Trek IV: The Voyage To Pittsburgh
JW Trek V: The Final Assembly (thank God!)
JW Trek VI: The Undiscovered Territory
JW Wars I: The Ray Franz Menace
JW Wars II: Attack of the Apostates
Hope these make sense. At least more sense than that dribble at the assemblies.
some individuals truly enjoy being jehovah's witnesses.
i think about those that would have liked to be in acting.
well, having a part in a demonstration in the service meeting or giving a talk in the theocratic ministry school gives one the opportunity to act, be melodramatic, show a little comedic talent,etc.
The points so far are great. I've got a couple of more reasons to add:
1) they have family in the borg, and don't want to lose contact with them (ie shunning) by coming out of the JW faith. There are 2-3 people I know personally who are this way, who know the WT is bull**** and are too intelligent to believe in it.
2) the borg culture serves as a type of antidepressant medication. They're told that feeling stressed by 'this old system,' being overwhelmed by day to day life, etc., is normal. This is contrasted with happy, cheerful worldlings. Something is wrong with THEM, and their lack of attention to the 'really important things,' or spiritual things (here this phrase means what the WT wants you to do and believe). Not only that, the worldlings are enjoying the life of decadence and ungodliness this old system has to offer. The depresssed JW receives total support and friendship from fellow JWs as long as they're believing the troof and 'being faithful in meeting attendance and field service.' This reinforces the mental condition of the depressed JW. Depression is made to seem as normalcy to this person's mind. My ex actually refused treatment when I begged her to get it, which is the main reason I filed for divorce. Nothing was wrong with her, I was the one at fault since I was questioning the WT.
And, I'm not sayng I'm all perfect. I had this problem myself, and finally got away from the org and its fake treatment. In fact, my journey is to the point of working on positive traits now. After several years and a couple of good counselors, I've largely been able to eliminate the negative JW thinking. I don't mean to brag, I've just been pretty lucky in my post-JW journey. I couldn't have done it without God and some true "worldly" friends.
I hope this hasn't gone off topic. I've never been able to put this in so few words, and felt like it was time.
when you get baptized, you are expected to swallow a multitude of beliefs that either you never really understood or simply didn't truly believe in.
when going over questions for baptism, almost nobody understood the concept of the"faithful and discreet slave".
yet after it was attempted to explain this mumbo-jumbo, every candidate meekly just went along with the explanation without ever truly understanding the fallacy.
Great thread, Minimus.
The resurrection doctrine (about 'not being given in marriage') bothered me. I wanted to 'live through Armageddon' just so I wouldn't come back like some quasi-anointed 'thing' without libido. Libido is a fun thing to have, and I didn't want to lose it.
And, I never understood about the countries with a ridiculous population to JW ratio. For example, what would happen to the 10,000,000 people in Bangladesh to every JW when Armageddon came? Would they just get wiped away? That didn't seem fair. But, how could they possibly be reached in time by the 'preaching work.' Especially since the end was right around the corner.
Three might be that all non-JWs would be destroyed. I knew a lot of good kids in my classes at school and it didn't make sense that they'd lose out if God was love.
Most things I disagree with were after I started on my way out and began thinking for myself more. So, they don't really qualify under this thread. Plus, it would take a long time to write about them.
Now, I realize that God really is more loving and merciful than we can imagine, and that he (or she) puts up with a lot of crap from each of us. I still believe in the ransom sacrifice by Jesus Christ, but I'm not sure about a lot of things. Like I say in prayer occasionally, I'd rather not know all the answers than be 1) wrong and 2) convinced I was right and everybody else was wrong.
I'm much happier and love thinking for myself!
is anyone here a james bond fan?
if so, who was your favourite character?
mine was sheriff jw pepper.. "what are you, some kind of domesday machine boy?
For humor: Jaws, the big guy with metal teeth.
For more adult things: Lynn Holly Johnson as the precocious young figure skater in For Your Eyes Only.
Edited by - FLDude on 9 November 2002 22:26:14
to all my republican friends.. (it's humor, people...if you don't have any, go buy some!).
if your equities are falling, .
if your polls are falling, .
I'm real new here. Just wanted to say I'm Republican. Enjoyed the song anyway.
I'm thinking about getting involved politically. In my city, the city council insists on spending $40 mill (US) on a park right next to a sewer plant!!
No, I didn't have sex with Ms. Lewinsky either!!
silentlambs: silent no more!!!.
published as a joint venture by houghten mifflin and del rey books, this moving narrative of the multi-national efforts of united group of jehovah's witnesses, non-jehovah's witnesses, and former jehovah's witnesses to change long-standing child abuse policy of the 120 year-old religious corporation, watchtower bible and tract society.
in the late 1800's a man named charles taze russell undertook to establish a printing company with volunteer workers.
I'm late, but just ran across this:
What about adding Max von Sydow as Theodore Jaracz?
just wondering if this was only a localised event...but knowing the wts it mustn't be.... i heard thru fellow ex dub... that there was a big hoooohah talk about associating with disassociated and disfellowed jw's..everyone had "explained" to them the rules regarding"bad associations"...the wts stand on this is meant to be firming up even more.... my lovely jw sister, who by the way never wants to answer any queries, told me when i asked why the need for more policing, she said if i attacked her"faith" shed have to limit her "association" with me...i gave her a razzberry and said,.naaah... i am not ds'd or d'ad.. but she said that doesnt matter either...??
?it just seems like an extra excuse for emotional black mail to me... did anyone else hear of these talks..>???
"the spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum.
>... the elder that gave the part had somebody answer that "just as with the prodigal son.." Well, >the elder stated that NOW the Faithful slave has more understanding on the way to handle >disfellowshipped ones and that would basically superscede any thing that prodigal son's father >might have done.
So, by extension, the 'faithful slave' knows better than Jesus who gave the parable? Good point, minimus.
when i was in the truth i thought that the most ludicrous and petty ruling they ever introduced and still practiced is that congregation book study conductors were and are responsible for collecting every group members report.
surely every member ought to be responsible for his/her own actions.
at the beginning of the following month and certainly before the 5th i would always receive the stupid telephone call from the secretary are you aware that 3 publishers havent reported?
FLDude: Seriously? Why, are they scared that THE DEEMINZ!!! will intercept Bethel's money?
SYN: Yes, dead serious. They emphasized reporting everything on the Society's own forms. Some programs were in circulation for doing the accounting on a PC, and they wanted control, uniformity.
Even if a facsimile of their forms was being used, it's the same thing as using their forms, to me. The above is the only explanation I can come up with.
I know one guy who was using software to make Ministry School assignments, and that was frowned on.
Nice to be free of all that.
PS - Now that I'm out of the Borg, happily driving a 2 door car.
when i was in the truth i thought that the most ludicrous and petty ruling they ever introduced and still practiced is that congregation book study conductors were and are responsible for collecting every group members report.
surely every member ought to be responsible for his/her own actions.
at the beginning of the following month and certainly before the 5th i would always receive the stupid telephone call from the secretary are you aware that 3 publishers havent reported?
I used to do the "Accounts" in my cong. Long about 93-94 they came out with a KM insert in the USA saying you couldn't use computers in preparing the reports.
That REALLY frosted my butt whatwith the fancy computers and LANs I knew they had at Brooklyn.
This was really the first salvo in the general mistrust of computers and the Internet they've continued with. Funny, now that the 'Net is so widespread, I wonder how much "secret porn" inhabits PCs at Columbia Heights?
- FLDude
Pensacola FL
