Posts by Elena

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consequences for going against the direction.

by jehovaxx in

there are no serious consequences for doubting the gb.

there are no consequences for going against the direction.

we can now celebrate anything.. what will happen if you take blood, celebrate xmas and birthdays ect?.

Elena

The new direction is if the person says they are repentant then that is enough.

Its gone from what the elders say to what the sinner says

Yes there are no real consequences now for going against direction. Sure elders may talk to you and you can just ignore them. It’s very hard to get announced that you are no longer a JW. Even if it comes to this it’s just a 90 day thing then the elders are begging you to come back

The "agnostic" part of PIMA is doing some incredibly heavy lifting, and it's a smokescreen.

What if you decide not to do any heavy lifting? JW light means only very light lifting. Go to meetings if you feel like it, very seldom in person just stay on zoom most of the time.

go to ministry groups for the nice social aspect but don’t ever do door to door. This is what many are doing.

we sometimes see faces we haven’t seen for a long time, but they come and talk as if they are still part of the congregation and they are. I love this it is encouraging for everyone who wants to be JW lite.

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Know it’s not true but stay anyway

by Elena in

how many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.

my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.

Elena

The "agnostic" part of PIMA is doing some incredibly heavy lifting, and it's a smokescreen.

What if you decide not to do any heavy lifting? JW light means only very light lifting. Go to meetings if you feel like it, very seldom in person just stay on zoom most of the time.

go to ministry groups for the nice social aspect but don’t ever do door to door. This is what many are doing.

we sometimes see faces we haven’t seen for a long time, but they come and talk as if they are still part of the congregation and they are. I love this it is encouraging for everyone who wants to be JW lite.

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Predictions for the next decade?

by jehovaxx in

as it’s nearly the new year my prediction over the next decade or so will see the sense of urgency dwindle.

then some huge huge changes.

for example by 2034 in a decades time, they will have address the 1914 issue and will come out and say we can’t be dogmatic.

Elena

It’s easier than ever to do a half fade where you end up JW light.

some people haven’t been seen for months then they May appear on zoom or at the KH in person every now and then. Just to catch up with old friends.

these are all counted as JWs but they don’t believe it anymore.

my prediction is upto 50% of the 9 million reported JWs will be JW light soon. The other 50% are mixed between JW heavy which are the pioneer types and semi light who do act like they believe it all but secretly don’t.

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Predictions for the next decade?

by jehovaxx in

as it’s nearly the new year my prediction over the next decade or so will see the sense of urgency dwindle.

then some huge huge changes.

for example by 2034 in a decades time, they will have address the 1914 issue and will come out and say we can’t be dogmatic.

Elena

Over the next decade things will get even easier with slackening off.

they will double down on saving and investing like in latest watchtowers telling people to put something aside for old age.

they will try to do whatever they can think of to stop the bleed of young people

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A lot of bodies

by Elena in

i have this memory of a gb member once saying that there would be a lot of bodies to be buried after armageddon.. does anyone else remember who said it?.

it was probably in the last decade or so.

ive been trying to find the video i’m sure it was on lloyd evens and all the other similar channels when it was said.. i can’t remember which gb member said it.

Elena

I think it was Geratt Loach who said it

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A lot of bodies

by Elena in

i have this memory of a gb member once saying that there would be a lot of bodies to be buried after armageddon.. does anyone else remember who said it?.

it was probably in the last decade or so.

ive been trying to find the video i’m sure it was on lloyd evens and all the other similar channels when it was said.. i can’t remember which gb member said it.

Elena

I have this memory of a GB member once saying that there would be a lot of bodies to be buried after Armageddon.

does anyone else remember who said it?

it was probably in the last decade or so

Ive been trying to find the video I’m sure it was on Lloyd evens and all the other similar channels when it was said.

i can’t remember which GB member said it

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Know it’s not true but stay anyway

by Elena in

how many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.

my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.

Elena

Jehovah’s Witnesses are not the closest to the truth. There is no truth every human being on Earth is agnostic.

The true definition of diagnostic is you cannot prove that God exists and that you cannot prove that God doesn’t exist or evolutionist cannot prove to me that God does not exist. This means they are diagnostic by definition.

This is why I am staying Pima which stands for physically in mentally agnostic

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Know it’s not true but stay anyway

by Elena in

how many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.

my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.

Elena

An ex-elder once said to me, "If you want to just get by, there are a whole lot of religions easier to do it in than Jehovah's Witnesses."(Granted, that was back when you still had to report all your time.)

These days it’s just as easy in JWs as in any other religion or group.

The only problem is there are some over righteous zealots who class themselves as super spiritual and try to make others feel they are inferior.

but apart from them, it’s easy to just get by go to meetings on zoom or if you feel like it then in person occasionally

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Elena

So his ex wife has a nice stepdad for the kids. They seem to be thriving lovely pics on social media.

Lloyd still can’t speak the language he has no friends and can’t get off his addiction to drugs and hookers

will Lloyd now take more illegal drugs to cope with his sad lonely life? He lives in a cheap grotty place with paper thin walls and by the sound of it has similar drug abuse neighbours.

how long before he moves back to the uk and asks his dad for help?

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Know it’s not true but stay anyway

by Elena in

how many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.

my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.

Elena

I think it’s the same for all religions. Around me here most people are church of this or that or whatever religion.

They find it beneficial but don’t really believe it all.

JWs like the sound of the Bibles promises but they know in their heart the GB have not got the correct interpretation