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  A Modest proposal to solve the 1914 problem

  by r51785 in

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  throughout watchtower history dates have been a problem.

  the usual solution for failed prophetic dates has been to kick the can down the road.

  this needs to be done with 1914. the generation that will never pass away is now 110 years old and therefore is past its useful life span.

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  Another proposal to solve the 1914 problems would be to admit the men who thought that up have all died and the current GB have inherited this false doctrine.

  The truth is everything hinges on 1914. Everything. Elders pray in the name of our reigning king Jesus. They teach that Jesus started ruling in 1914, this was when he battled with Satan and the demons and threw him out of heaven.

  I think there is no way they could admit they were wrong about this and survive. All they can do is not talk about it and hope JWs are so stupid, hey this has worked for many decades.
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  Even with recent changes it’s a struggle to get people to attend

  by hoser in

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  the kingdom hall is still empty.

  even with amalgamation of 2 congregations.

  the elders are handling the microphones and there was only one comment from zoom at the watchtower.

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  Elena

  I think all the huge changes are a desperate attempt to stop the haemorrhaging.

  The wish the zoom can of worms was never opened but they had to for covid. Now they can’t take it away for the genuine old and infirm, but what if someone simply says they are too ill and needs to stay on zoom?

  All KHs are so empty these days and the GB are in panic mode. They are desperate to think of something try anything but latest attempts have made it even worse.

  I heard a young person in a congregation said “I don’t like that guy” when Steve Lett came on with the beard new light. His mother said “you can’t say that he is a member of the GB”

  but it sums up what young people think and once the older ones die off there won’t be many left
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  Geoffrey Jackson has a beard now

  by Tahoe in

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  Elena

  Apparently it’s a fake.

  but I don’t know it looks real enough

  isn’t he the one still single? A 60 something year old virgin ?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Elena

  Yes Kim I remember watching one of his covid live chats with a few others on there. His arrogance really showed when he said multiple times it’s my channel and I do what I want.
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

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  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  Elena

  The only official announcement was on the latest News section for a day or so. It was hard to spot and most missed it. It just said that it was announced to the bethel family that Am3 was no longer GB. If it’s good news they put it on a banner at the top for days Breaking news so you can’t miss it. If it’s not good news but they have to announce it they try to hide it.

  The only other way to know he has been removed is slowly deleting every picture or video he has been in. It’s taking a while because he has obviously been on a lot over the decades.
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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

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  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  Elena

  Yes it’s inevitable they have to admit 1914 is all wrong. But it’s often been said everything hinges on all the 1914 doctrines, yes it does and I say again it’s inevitable they will have to admit they are wrong about all the 1914 doctrine
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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

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  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  Elena

  It definitely is new light. Thinking about the flood account Jesus said they took no note and the flood swept them all away.

  well this new light they could wait until they were sure the flood was going to happen then get in the ark?
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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

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  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  Elena

  Gorb you are right. Soon it will be that we always said some non JWs will make it, even though this is not the truth. WTowers have said for decades that only baptised will make it, but all the dead will be resurrected unless they were really bad. This is why Br Jackson said “we know you were hoping your loved ones would die before Armageddon”

  the old light made no sense. But this new light changes everything. What is the point of the ministry now? What is the point of getting baptised?

  Maybe it is a PR professional team coming up with this new light to slow the bleeding.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Elena

  It wouldn’t be surprising if he was taking all sorts of drugs both illegally and big pharma. He was very pro vaccine and is probably still going to get his booster shots every six months. The bleaching of hair, visiting prostitutes reckless behaviour all points towards a downward spiral of self destruction. Next comes harder drugs if not already started. Then maybe tattoos and piercings, maybe gambling. Maybe crime to support his habits. It’s not a very good advert for exJWs.
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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

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  2. beliefs

  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  Elena

  No one ever needs to become a JW to make it into the New System. This is basically the new light. They say you were wrong to wish your unbelieving loved ones would die before Armageddon. Now they are saying they will make it as long as they are a good person? Or they don’t really say that but they imply it. What they actually say is we can’t be dogmatic we don’t know