Posts by Sanchy

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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?

by EmptyInside in

i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .

Sanchy

Jeffro to Scholar: "Do you even listen to yourself?"

Narrator: *He did not listen to himself*

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Are the statistics out yet?

by slimboyfat in

isn’t it about time they released the report for the service year?

or have they stopped publishing it?

did they released selected figures at the annual meeting as they usually do, such as the memorial attendance or record number of pioneers?

Sanchy

Slim: The JW numbers look “bad” … until you compare them with most other Christian groups which are in severe decline in the west. Compared with other Christian groups the growth of JWs bucks the trend of decline.

Remember that every JW is an active recruiter. They spend billions of hours collectively performing that recruiting task, and thus fruitless results inflict a bigger hit on JW morale that that of the common church pew seat occupier.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

Sanchy

Scholar, this is why you should listen to your buddies over at JWTalk and refrain from engaging with "apostates", for when you do, you inadvertently help reveal why WT theology is wrong.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

Sanchy

Scholar: "Christians submitting to baptism would most likely endorse such teaching as it is well-founded biblically so i cannot envisage this becoming an issue."

Way to answer without answering. I wonder why.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Sanchy

I'm sure all those "comedians" are hilarious and not cringe whatsoever.

Odds of hearing the term "cis-heteropatriarchy" that night?

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Former Elders Please - Disbeliever recently married to a JW

by doasthouwilt in

jw
friends

i recently married my best friend of 32 years.

she is a life-long jw and once an active pioneer, i am a 'worldly' person through-and-through, always will be.

we married because it was the only way we could find a way of staying together while giving her a path back to her religion ultimately, which she does not want to (or cannot) let go of.

Sanchy

Hey OP,

I can tell you that when deciding whether to DF or not, Elders do sometimes consider factors such as "How long ago the sin took place" and "Has the sinner taken action to remediate the situation".

It seems in your case, the (supposed) sin took place years ago, and you have now married. If your wife can go in there and show one ounce of repentance, saying the right words, odds are they'll just privately reprove.

These are the right words for anyone not wanting to be DF'd in a Judicial Committee: "I have hurt Jehovah and sinned against him, I've learned my lesson and have taken steps to never repeat it". That's the magic phrase, do with it what you will.

PS, I can advise to lovingly and respectfully open up to your wife about how you feel regarding the religion. Ask her if she'd ever consider listening to counter-arguments to the religion's beliefs.

Good luck

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Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

by smiddy3 in

according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

Sanchy

Jesus was pre-conceived in vitro within a heavenly laboratory.

Mary was only a surrogate vessel and passed none of her sinful genetics onto the child.

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Where it all went wrong for the WT - JF Rutherford

by LoveUniHateExams in

i was thinking a bit about this the other day.

ct russell, from what i remember about him, kinda seemed like a genuine, nice(ish) guy, although he had a few eccentric but harmless ideas.. during the russell era jws (actually bible students) could still celebrate christmas, worship in other churches if there was no kingdom hall available, and accept blood transfusions.. then after russell died, along came rutherford - a major league a-hole, for sure.. rutherford had plenty of eccentric ideas but at least some of them weren't/aren't harmless.

some have been long forgotten about - jesus depicted without a beard, the plan to rename the names of the week because names such as thursday (thor's day) is pagan, the articles about the 'dangers' of aluminium, etc.. one key contribution of rutherford which does a lot of harm is no blood transfusions, even in life-threatening situations.. another is shunning, something which never occurred under russell, or at least was much milder.. rutherford has a lot to answer for, i reckon ....

Sanchy

Fred Franz shares a lot of the blame as well

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Jehovah's Witnesses resume sidewalk carts after pandemic pause, soon will do door knocking

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

jehovah's witnesses resume sidewalk carts after pandemic pause, soon will do door knocking.. https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2022/08/05/jehovahs-witnesses-resume-sidewalk-carts-door-knocking-next-list/10168175002/.

Sanchy

Ooof. I do not miss going D to D in this sizzling hot and humid South Florida climate. Felt like I was melting at every door.

It must have been hilarious for someone looking out the window to see us racing from shade tree to shade tree (if we were lucky enough to even be in an area with shade trees).

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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

by Vanderhoven7 in

it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

who is the way, the truth and the life?

(john 14:6).

Sanchy

A theological argument can be made for the JW perspective in the following way.

Indeed, the argument you put forth is similar to what WT writes

The Skeptic might think: If God wanted everyone to know him and use his name, why would he allow such an important alteration to occur in the first place? As a result of God's inaction, his name nearly vanished for millennia; and as such now, at this critical junction in time, most still fail to use his name and understandably so, a very costly and fatal mistake, according to JW theology.

It seems to me there are a few separate but related points in this thread:

1) Did the first Christians use YHWH at all? There is some evidence that they might have, at least when reading from their own OT manuscripts.

2) Assuming they did occasionally use the name for YHWH, did they pronounce the name for Jesus more or less often?

If we were to compare the writings of those first Christians to WT publications, how would the frequency for the use of YHWH compare? Even if we were to use the NWT's version of the NT, which claims to have restored the use of the name, it's still evident to me that JWs emphasize the name YHWH much more so than did those early faithful, and I'd add it occurs in an inverse correlation to the name Jesus