Posts by Clambake

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Propaganda vs Bible study

by Clambake in

is it just me or is the wts increasingly just becoming more about watchtower propaganda.

every week it seems to be about killing your children over blood transfusions or worshipping the magical men in brooklyn or the loving provision of shunning or the magical power of the elders or some brother in far off land who is in jail because he cant stop handling out magazines he doesnt understand to people who dont want them.

try and get a jw to explain the gospels or the book of the romans and what was significant about the book of acts...........................no clue.

Clambake

Is it just me or is the WTS increasingly just becoming more about watchtower propaganda. Every week it seems to be about killing your children over blood transfusions or worshipping the magical men in Brooklyn or the loving provision of shunning or the magical power of the elders or some brother in far off land who is in jail because he can’t stop handling out magazines he doesn’t understand to people who don’t want them.

Try and get a JW to explain the gospels or the book of the Romans and what was significant about the book of Acts………………………No clue.

Mind you I don’t actually attend anymore. I just have to listen to those JW.org recording my wife plays before she goes to her meetings. I have never once ever seen her read the bible.

Do you believe the Watchtower will soon just get rid of the bible ?

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The Plurality of God in Old Testament

by Clambake in

i am not going to claim to be any kind of bible expert or a good writer or anything like that but do you ever notice how the wts has completely whitewashed this idea or anything relating to this..

from the beginning of the bible in the beginning god said let us make man in our own image , to the term elohim which literally means gods , to the angel of the lord in the old testament which is identified to being with god and god himself.

it is just kind of interesting when you read the book of john in the new testament and you start to read things like the word was with god and the word was god or no one has seen the father only the son it kind of makes sense without really fully understanding it.

Clambake

So

I am not going to claim to be any kind of bible expert or a good writer or anything like that but do you ever notice how the WTS has completely whitewashed this idea or anything relating to this.

From the beginning of the bible “ In the beginning god said let US make man in our own image “, to the term Elohim which literally means “ Gods “, to the Angel of the Lord in the old testament which is identified to being with god and god himself.

It is just kind of interesting when you read the book of John in the new testament and you start to read things like “ the word was with god and the word was god “ or “ No one has seen the father only the son “ it kind of makes sense without really fully understanding it. Even when you go to the writings of Paul and see how he uses the tetragrammaton and old testament quotes “ Call on the name of name of LORD an you will be saved “. What did Paul mean by using these quotes ?

Now a well-trained JW would be over a statement like that how can you faith in something you don’t fully understand? I am not really sure I do but I tend to prefer to look at the intent of the authors and I do believe there was a belief in the plurality of god.

Please save the atheist/agnostic comments about the bible. You people are more annoying than uber dubs. Yeah we get it, we know how you feel.

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Campaign to Israel

by humanperson in

i have been wanting to introduce myself but i don't know where to begin.

my husband and i are enjoying our third guilt-free weekend of our lives (both born-in, almost 30).

he has been out mentally for the last year and a half but patiently waited for me to come around.

Clambake

So the WTS basically want everyone to go to Israel go door to door and say

The modern day of Israel is not the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. You have no special purpose in Gods plan.
Serving in the military is wrong, even though your survival as a people depends on it.
The term Jew in the new testament actually means spirit anointed Christian in which god has chosen seven magical men in Brooklyn New York represent him.

How there is a single JW all of Israel just blows me away. But we were in the holocaust together. You went to the Ovens and we babysit the SS kids, same thing.

The only reason JW want to go to Israel is so they can hide under the guise of being evangelical Christians and spew there poison.

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Today's wt "study" obfuscations

by prologos in

paragraph 9 : " jesus blood validates the new covenant -- makes posiible the forgiveness sins for all time#.-- [and]--.

god could apply the value of jesus' shed blood to adams descendants--*.

--he could** also adopt certain --humans "as sons"--".

Clambake

I find no matter how complex WTS theology is, you can always seem to pin it down to one or two sentences that have no bibical basis what so ever.

1. There is no such thing as " Spiritual Israel ".

2. No where does it say the member in the new covenant is limited.

The Old testament is the story of god and the jews and a series of convenants which made them gods people. Long story short the new testament is the story of the transfer of this convenant to the "church " the body of christ. Gods final arrangement with mankind to have a relationship with him though Jesus Christ. Believe it or not, that is the story of christianity

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This religion is about to be toast.

by kneehighmiah in

the governing body is preparing to take a major hit.

this recent watchtower shows it.

not the new understandings, but the article on marriage.

Clambake

Is this running just before christmas to make all the sisters with UBM feel guilty or are they really going to make marrying a UBM a disfellowing offence ??

If so, the looks like they might breed themselves out of existance. At least the brothers will have a greater pile of pussy to choose from.

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Trashed WT's found in Dr.s' waiting room Friday. Do you trash literature you find?

by Wasanelder Once in

took the magazines in the waiting room and dumped them in the trash.

was a great feeling.

to think many witnoids wont dare throw out the surplus magazines they have in stacks around the house is amazing.

Clambake

I like to go the the Salvation Army thrift store and pick out the JW literature from the book section and give it to the Captain so it can be disposed of. It is kind of a hobby of mine.

What a bunch of pompous assholes. Donating their books to an evanglical church. Real classy considering what they say about them behind there backs.

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Can a JW go home for Christmas ??

by Clambake in

jw love to make a big deal about christmas but the reality is alot of people have time off work from christmas to new years.

we like to go home.

with me being an ubm does it become an issue within the cong ?

Clambake

I remember last December I went to a JW wing ding. It was for anyone under the age of 40. Lots of good food, played some games etc etc. I remember thinking, oh FFS this is a Christmas party. They even had the booze just flowing.

Yet my wife can’t come to my Christmas party at work. JWs really are some self-righteous pricks.

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Can a JW go home for Christmas ??

by Clambake in

jw love to make a big deal about christmas but the reality is alot of people have time off work from christmas to new years.

we like to go home.

with me being an ubm does it become an issue within the cong ?

Clambake

I thought there was an unwritten rule that holiday witnessing was really rude. Aleast my wife thinks so.

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Can a JW go home for Christmas ??

by Clambake in

jw love to make a big deal about christmas but the reality is alot of people have time off work from christmas to new years.

we like to go home.

with me being an ubm does it become an issue within the cong ?

Clambake

I remember one time having an argument with a witness and he was like “Why do families have to get to together only at Christmas, why can’t everyday be Christmas “. I told him it is because in the business working world families have limited time and it is a great time because most businesses are closed.

He was like “Oh, I never really thought of that “. We all know the real views of JWs on Christmas are more about trying place a wedge between you and your worldly family ( Allah I hate that word ).

Do JW do family reunions ?? I am guessing no.

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Can a JW go home for Christmas ??

by Clambake in

jw love to make a big deal about christmas but the reality is alot of people have time off work from christmas to new years.

we like to go home.

with me being an ubm does it become an issue within the cong ?

Clambake

So

JW love to make a big deal about Christmas but the reality is alot of people have time off work from Christmas to New Years. We like to go home. With me being an UBM does it become an issue within the cong ? I have made my opinion known to the elders if you ask personal question I will tell you to get fucked and I don't want you alone with my wife.