Posts by Clambake

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JW to SDA anyone do it ?

by Introvert 2 in

a couple friends pointed me to some info on the sabbath and i just plain like it, being the workaholic i am it's a lifesaver for me and gives me the motivation to be more balanced about my business and work schedule.

so from there i looked into the adventists and found a hall near my place and went last week.

i honestly enjoyed myself and the meeting time is not disruptive and the people were great and pretty laid back.

Clambake

I have been to an SDA church a few times before. It is generally pretty cool. Some of the references to Ellen White are kind of nutty. I thought they didn’t do that but I guess they do.

Still they don’t really believe in the whole body of Christ thing and believe you are saved though your domination, only your membership in the SDA will save you in the end. They don’t do the whole interfaith thing.

At the end of the day they don’t ruin families and destroy lives like the WTS and I guess that is all that really matters.

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Witness behavior in my gym ....

by SecretSlaveClass in

about two months ago two very attractive ladies in their mid 30's signed on at one of the gyms i belong to.

for a while i noticed them watching me and naturally i assumed they were taking an interest in how i went about training my clients since many do before they decide to approach me and inquire about my services (i own a health and fitness consultancy).. sure enough one of them approached me a few weeks back and asked me for a business card, inquired about rates and various other aspects involved with signing on with me.

i handed her a card and explained that my client schedule was full but she should consider signing on with one of my personal trainers who still had some open spots available.

Clambake

I grew up in a normal evangelical church. About half the people who attended each Sunday were baptized members and about half were people who just attended. I know I never really paid that much attention to what was going but I never ever heard stories of infinity , there was hardly any divorced people and absolutely no kiddie diders.

Of course there are former members who fell away but it’s not like anyone ever gets removed. Chances are if you are going to pursue a career in porn or develop a coke habit, you will be long gone before any elder talks to you.

All I ever hear about with the JW is the high standard of cleanliness they hold their members too and at the same time all these terrible things happening.

How come the self-proclaimed morally cleanest people on earth seem to have all this terrible things on?

P.S- You should have nailed her. She gets disfellowed. Finds freedom from the cult. It would have been very Christian of you.

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Angel of the True God

by StarTrekAngel in

i usually open posts such as this one with disclaimer for the atheists/agnostics out there.

i respect your position and what i tried to do in posts like this one is discuss the bible, wether you believe the stories or not.. i believe it is well known that in jw doctrine it is thought that no one has ever seen god.

this teaching is also supplemented by the accounts of moises, where jehovah told him that no one can see him and yet live to tell the tale.. i, however, was always puzzled by some of the grammar in the bible where it seems to imply that god appeared to people.

Clambake

In the old testament the figure known as “the angel of the lord “ who is identified as god and being with god is thought to be the pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ.

Contradiction? ……………………….Kind of and not really. It depends on if you believe in the plurality of god in the old testament. You can’t see god the father just god the son. Thus you get the “ In the being was the word and the word was with god and was god “.

I really don’t understand it all and believe no one really does.

The interesting part about it , this concept is completely ignored in Jehovah witness theology. I think when studying the entire bible it appears jesus and god the father together comprised Jehovah, Yahway , LORD……………whatever you want to call him.

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FMF Rant on Abuse and JW Apologists: The Single Root of the Whole Issue(s)

by freemindfade in

for the jw apologists, they debate certain factors to down play all the recent sex abuse information in the jehovah's witness organization.

and there is so much focus on "two witness rule" and "parents can report" the "elders aren't legal authorities" and many other smoke screen issues.

a lot of these issues and discussion are down stream from what i believe to be the root of the issue.

Clambake

My wife went to her meeting last night and I asked her if there was any talk about the troubles in Australia. She had no clue and asked me what I was talking about. I told her about it and told her it was on CBC news. She just assumed it was an apostate website but when she found out it was from a legit source he eyes lit as big as dollar coins. She actually read the entire article.

I told her this is what happens when you have a religion that keeps secret files on its members, dismisses everything bad said about it as apostate lies and puts men in a position to tell its members they can’t see their families anymore if they don’t do this or that…………………………and you wonder why it attracts pedos like flies to shit.

She had no reply. No fight after either. I hope it was a break though moment.

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Have you ever shunned anyone after leaving the borg ?

by Clambake in

this isnt particularly a jw question but if anyone knows the world of shunning it would be ex-jws.

i have a friend who about three years ago had an abortion and i havent been too friendly with since that happened.

i havent said anything or done anything rude to her.

Clambake

So it's a phone thing. Ivf cycle

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Have you ever shunned anyone after leaving the borg ?

by Clambake in

this isnt particularly a jw question but if anyone knows the world of shunning it would be ex-jws.

i have a friend who about three years ago had an abortion and i havent been too friendly with since that happened.

i havent said anything or done anything rude to her.

Clambake

Ever been around a women who just spent 10000 plus dollars on a failed if cycle?

Do you understand not only the finicial but emotional commit?

Deleted. How constructive.

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Have you ever shunned anyone after leaving the borg ?

by Clambake in

this isnt particularly a jw question but if anyone knows the world of shunning it would be ex-jws.

i have a friend who about three years ago had an abortion and i havent been too friendly with since that happened.

i havent said anything or done anything rude to her.

Clambake

Well

This isn’t particularly a JW question but if anyone knows the world of shunning it would be ex-JWs.

I have a friend who about three years ago had an abortion and I haven’t been too friendly with since that happened. I haven’t said anything or done anything rude to her. We live in different cities and when I travel back home I don’t contact her. We do have some contact with email and facebook and such but not like before.

A little bit of background , me and my wife have had fertility problems for years. Fortunately for us she is finally pregnant but it was really hard for me watching her world fall apart every 28 days.

My friend got herself pregnant out of wedlock on purpose in her early 20s to a man with quite a lucrative profession and 12-13 years later when he really hits it big ( about 250,000 a year for 6 months work ) she find herself pregnant. Of course with the money and vacations there is no room for another child so off to the clinic.

Of course being none of my business I have never said anything to anyone and watching the way the wives so friends act, I never want to be that morally bankrupt but am I really being any better.

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Tim Horton's sucks. I thought it was supposed to be good?

by SnakesInTheTower in

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so my wife and i went to th yesterday.

the chain started opening stores in the st. louis, mo area about a month ago.

by now the bugs should be worked out.

Clambake

I don't get the whole cult like following of tim Hortons in Canada. I think McDonald's makes better coffee. Outside of the iced cap it is all pretty average to me.

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Basic Bible and Religious Vocabulary the Watchtower Never Teaches

by CalebInFloroda in

when i began formal study of religion and biblical analysis it was like peeling off layer after layer of dark matter, sticky and putrid that had stuck over my eyes and ears and mouth.

i learned that under the watchtower one only builds a widening gap between yourself and the world of biblical academia and scholars.

i used to think i knew a lot because i learned to quote a few scholars or lexicons as a witness.

Clambake

Once having a back room meeting with an elder about the importance of my wife having her blood directive in order I asked the elder to give me a brief summary of the book of romans.

He asked why.

Then I was how about the book of acts then.

He told me I don't know where you going with this.

I then told him I don't think you could pass an entry level christian theology class in university. You are grossly under qualified to speak about spiritual matters and this meeting is over.

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Whatever Happened to the Remnant?

by snugglebunny in

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back in the 50's, when i was just a skinny kid, my father became po of a new congregation.

he'd only been baptised for around 4 years, so his rise was quite remarkable.just one of his flock in the new cachement area was of the "remnant".

this lady was well into her 60's, childless but married.

Clambake

After the whole flip flop on the 1935 thing and the new understanding of the faithful slave being part of the " heavenly class " really has no meaning anymore. I don't even know why they still have the memorial.

Anyone find it kind of silly that ex-JWs have a better understanding of JW theology than actual JWs do.