take the case of rolf furuli.
i don't think there has been a specific thread on the hebrew verbs u-turn in the nwt, and how the society has responded to the work of perhaps their brightest and ablest defender in their history.
so here goes.. rolf furuli has defended jws on multiple fronts in many different settings, on issues ranging from chronology, mental health, doctrines, bible translation and the blood issue.
High profile JW apologists either seem to become “ Born again Christians “ realizing all the things they railed against with such passion like trinity ,hellfire, immortal soul are really in the bible or they go completely batshit crazy like Greg Stanford or Robert King.
Either way, the WTS doesn’t really want to think too much about what you teaching. Thinking it the first step in leaving.
when i think of integrity, a lot of positive connotations come to mind.
i think of individuals grounded in principles, who do not operate on opinions that change based on the breeze of political or social change.
a life that is directed by a code of morality, not on capricious emotions.
I live a few doors down from an elder and he had some extra construction supplies( Insulation). He asked me if I would like to buy it from him and I save the tax and it saves him from taking back to the store. Since I was working on my house, no problem.
He told me he paid 80 dollars a bail and 10 bails so I cut him a check.
Just for fun later I checked it out on the home depot website and he only paid 40 dollars a bail. He screwed me out of 400 dollars.
I asked him about it. He said it was a mistake and he would pay me back. Two years later I am still waiting. Now he just avoids me like the plague.
Too funny. The 400 dollars was worth the lesson I got to show my wife. Don’t trust elders.
"have you given up on organized religion?
in many countries the number of people who describe themselves as not religious is growinga trend that suggests an uncertain future for institutional religion.
some of those lands are shown here.
When I was studying with my elder when I meet my wife I he asked me what kind of religious upbringing I had. I told him I was raised in an plain old protestant evangelical non-denominational church and he looked at with all seriousness
“ Do you think you have been deceived by Satan ? “
It was the first time in my life I think I was highly offended and ready to laugh my ass at the same time. I just sat there with a blank stare, I really had no idea what to say. I thought it might be some kind of dead pan humor at first but sadly it wasn’t.
The smug sense moral superiority of some witnesses is just nuts. They really think they can save people by calling them terrible names at the same time.
"have you given up on organized religion?
in many countries the number of people who describe themselves as not religious is growinga trend that suggests an uncertain future for institutional religion.
some of those lands are shown here.
I was reading that article last night and for some reason I found it especially pompous and arrogant, even for the watchtower.
Does the average JW even realize that going door to door telling people that they are in a “False Religion” might be a tad big offensive ? I really have no words sometimes.
The WTS really appeals to the abnoixus nature of some people.
"have you given up on organized religion?
in many countries the number of people who describe themselves as not religious is growinga trend that suggests an uncertain future for institutional religion.
some of those lands are shown here.
i was just thinking that the org has said lots of outrageous things over it's history and most jws just continue onward without a second thought.
so my question is what do you think would have to be said from the platform or wt to get people to get up and walk out immediately?
is it even possible?
I have notice in my wives congregation there are a few who refuse to make stupid comments. I wonder to what degree they are awake.
Unfortunately at least two elders seem to be narcissistic bullies who I know willing go out of their way to say especially stupid and cultist things to see whose eye rolled and get them on the shit list.
“ The truth today might not be the truth tomorrow but even if a person left the truth over a doctorial issue that was later changed it is important to keep shunning them for disagreeing with the FTS “.
what was the purpose for those meetings?
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With the new understanding of the faithful slave, I am not even sure why they even make a fuss of the magical 144,000. The sad part I am pretty sure there are plenty JW that are not even aware of the doctorial flip flop. I have since read literature printed after the new understanding and I am not even sure the entire writing department has gotten the memo.
Heck I am not even too sure why they have the memorial since the anointed are just figureheads now.
Oh wait, to insult Jesus. It is like a Slayer concert.
thousands of mormons have simultaneously tendered their resignation from the cult following secret changes to the handbook that further discriminated against gay members and the children of gay couples.. "last week secret revisions to the handbook for the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints was leaked to the public, sparking a furious backlash and ultimately resulting in the mass resignations.
" source....
Any church that starts taking a liberal stance on things like homosexuality and abortion won’t be around very long. The United Church of Canada ( once the biggest domination in Canada ) started taking a so called progressive view social issue in the late 60s and now only has 1/10 the membership it use to with the average age of its members being well over 60 years old .
I think we have thought so far outside the box on the gay issue we have forgot how to think inside the box. White people can’t join the black panthers, Men can’t join womens hockey etc etc.
if you are gay, why do you even want to go to church?
there is a certain elder in my wives hall that has seemed to developed a real interest her.
first he seemed to feel a need to make sure all her blood cards were signed before she gave birth to our child.. he sends her text messages if she misses a meeting saying how much " we missed you last night ".
he finally sent her a text wondering where her oct hours were , knowing she had some pretty serious tears from child birth and could hardly even walk, much less do field service ".
I am not even really that pissed off about the text messages because looking though a lot of them the majority of them look like mass mailing things but my wife after giving birth and having her lady parts ripped apart and not attending the KH for a month.
Do you think the text about her hours was legit doing his job thing or just a cheap shot?
Funny thing is have an elder (who have had some less than honorable business dealings with and owns me money) who just lives three doors down from us. He doesn’t really give two shit about us. He has also had three children.
I think it is kind of funny how much childless weirdos seem to think they need to involve themselves people with extra busy lives
what percent are single, childless couples and/or couples that have grown children?
i know that can depend on what cultures/countries they are, but what do think across the globe.. what percent are children, six to 18 yrs.
olds?.
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The hounders in our hall are all childless. They really have nothing better to do.
