Clambake

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  Tim Horton's sucks. I thought it was supposed to be good?

  by SnakesInTheTower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my wife and i went to th yesterday.

  the chain started opening stores in the st. louis, mo area about a month ago.

  by now the bugs should be worked out.

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  Clambake

  I don't get the whole cult like following of tim Hortons in Canada. I think McDonald's makes better coffee. Outside of the iced cap it is all pretty average to me.
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  Basic Bible and Religious Vocabulary the Watchtower Never Teaches

  by CalebInFloroda in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i began formal study of religion and biblical analysis it was like peeling off layer after layer of dark matter, sticky and putrid that had stuck over my eyes and ears and mouth.

  i learned that under the watchtower one only builds a widening gap between yourself and the world of biblical academia and scholars.

  i used to think i knew a lot because i learned to quote a few scholars or lexicons as a witness.

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  Clambake

  Once having a back room meeting with an elder about the importance of my wife having her blood directive in order I asked the elder to give me a brief summary of the book of romans.

  He asked why.

  Then I was how about the book of acts then.

  He told me I don't know where you going with this.

  I then told him I don't think you could pass an entry level christian theology class in university. You are grossly under qualified to speak about spiritual matters and this meeting is over.
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  Whatever Happened to the Remnant?

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  back in the 50's, when i was just a skinny kid, my father became po of a new congregation.

  he'd only been baptised for around 4 years, so his rise was quite remarkable.just one of his flock in the new cachement area was of the "remnant".

  this lady was well into her 60's, childless but married.

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  Clambake

  After the whole flip flop on the 1935 thing and the new understanding of the faithful slave being part of the " heavenly class " really has no meaning anymore. I don't even know why they still have the memorial.

  Anyone find it kind of silly that ex-JWs have a better understanding of JW theology than actual JWs do.
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  Where did Jesus get the Idea of an After-life in Heaven?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the ancient jews did not believe in an after-life as far as i can tell, correct me if i'm wrong.

  the watchtower says yes.

  they say all the prophets believed in a paradise earth..

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  Clambake

  Ecclesiastes is a book of wisdom written by King Solomon which starts off describing the condition of men without god. Money is everything, When we are dead , we are just dead…………………………..oh wait………….Life sucks without god. That is the entire book in a nutshell.
  
  

  A coles notes bible for dummies is more of a threat to the WTS than any apostate. Understanding individual book of the bible and how they relate to each other is “ taking in accurate knowledge ‘.
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  Babylon the Great and the Anti Christ

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  similar views as those presented here are gaining in popularity in christian circles.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgmrfatdvtm.

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  Clambake

  I wonder if JWs go to MIT or NASA message boards and try and hijack them with theology.

  It sure seems funny how a disportionate number of ex-JW seem to be actual scientists.

  Cofty……………… Why don’t you just Fuck off. If people want to discuss bible theology on a message board decided to people deceived by false theology.

  You are just as pompous and arrogant as the most uber elder with all your Bill Nye the science guy crap. Go away

  You are just an internet bully who needs to make himself the center of attention in every thread you touch.
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  Employment Rules in the Watchtower Organization.

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a jehovah witness teacher is allowed to teach nonreligious subjects in a school owned by a religious organization but,.

  is not allowed to teach the same subject in a school funded or directed by the military..

  since the watchtower views all religious organizations as part of babylon the great who had gods disfavor and would be destroyed at armageddon, no elder including some members of the gb could explain this policy of employment.isocf pg 401.

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  Clambake

  I heard this story ( man, I wish I could find a link ) about this JW who got a job working for Christian charity and after informing all the people at the charity they are in false religion and would die at Armageddon, she/he was treated differently by her/his fellow co-workers.

  Of course that resulted in having to leave the job and file a lawsuit which unfortunately she/he won. Watchtower lawyers and money saved the day.

  I would like to believe at some level at the average JW can see how moral bankrupt some of their behavior is. Kind of like sueing doctors who save your life
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  People who study for years ??

  by Clambake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my cong ( my wives cong.

  ) there is a lady who attends every meeting , minus the field service just like a regular dub.

  it just seems odd she has not taken the dip yet.

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  Clambake

  In my cong ( my wives cong.) there is a lady who attends every meeting , minus the field service just like a regular dub.

  It just seems odd she has not taken the dip yet.

  How long can you string this out for ? Is there a point where the elders might tell you to shit or get off the pot or is it just easy hours for some sister.
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  Mexico could make North America the world leader in oil production.

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone have info why this have not been explored.

  mexico has reserves of.

  oil estimated by industry analysts at 60 billion to 120 billion barrels in the.

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  Clambake

  The world is awash in oil right now. There is no need to go after potentially environmentally hazardous and expensive reserves right now. Some of those deep water wells cost upwards of 1 billion dollars per well. At 50 dollars a barrel that doesn’t pay.
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  How the Watchtower Screws Up Your View of Scripture

  by CalebInFloroda in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.

  jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.

  1. no scriptural concept of original sin.

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  Clambake

  I had a discussion with a JW one time about the book of John and “ the word was a god “. I told him I believe John gave a good reference of Jesus being “ the angel of the lord” from the old testament, the figure that was identified as being God and with God. If you look at the quotes from the old testament and how they are used and the I AM statement, I believe the book of John testifies to the identity of Jesus and how he believed Jesus was God in the flesh.

  Then I asked “ What do you think the book of John is about and how it relates to the new testament “ ?

  Silence. Interesting, I must be going. Good to meet you.

  JW if it isn’t some crazy weird code they believe they have cracked really have no idea what the hell the bible is all about. The WTS trains you to think so far outside the box you really forget how to think inside it.
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  All quiet on the western front

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently it seems very quiet in jw land.. jw broadcasting has been in full swing for months now, nobody bats an eye lid at that anymore.. so the question is, what is next?

  the next organisation change, the next doctrine change.

  it seems like this is the quiet before the storm.. the way things are going, it's almost like they try and one up their last change, things in jw land get that bit more crazy every year.. i'm hedging my bets toward a monthly public talk broadcast straight from new york.

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  Clambake

  My wife just got back from her assembly. There was 4700 in attendance and 11 took the dip. Too make matters worse they were just 12 year old born-ins. In our entire province of 1.1 million people I don't think even 20 people took the dip.

  I am beginning to think subconsciously a large portion of dubs want the nonsense to end.