Those production figures always used to be a matter of pride. Guess they're not so good anymore.
cobaltcupcake
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Did they give any statistics on production at the Annual Meeting?
by factfinder inanything about how many books or magazines were printed last year?.
thanks!.
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Dreaming of witnesses
by Honeybucket indoes anyone have dreams or nightmares about jehovah's witnesses, the society, or your trapped loved ones?
i do all the time and they wont stop.
i wake up with cold sweats and an upset stomach.
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cobaltcupcake
I've been out for 8-1/2 years and I dream about being at meetings or assemblies probably 5 nights out of 7. I'm always hating every second of it and wanting to leave but I have family there and have to put on a front for them.
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Bossert Hotel sold for $81M,,
by Gayle inhttp://therealdeal.com/blog/2012/11/12/chetrit-bistricer-pay-81-million-for-brooklyns-bossert-hotel/.
that is quite a hit.
it had sold a few ago for $100m but that fell through.
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cobaltcupcake
I remember taking a tour of the Bossert with my Bethelite brother back in 1987. Just standing in the lobby I was embarrassed by how luxurious it was, and how it had been paid for by donations for "the worldwide work." And I was a very loyal JW at the time.
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China and North Korea rank Happiest Countries
by everchangingworld inyep, says north korea.
according to a new happiness index, north korea ranks second after china, followed by cuba, iran and venezuela.
if you're wondering where america ranks, it's ranks at #203. .
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cobaltcupcake
No North Korean in their right mind would dream of saying they're unhappy.
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FDS new light no logic
by snare&racket inso according to the parable, a master has a slave, he asks him to look after his animals and.....then goes away!.
after much time has passed....the master comes back and if he finds the slave has been loyal and has looked after the animals, he calls him a good slave, if not he is an evil slave.. so my point is, jesus handed over responsibility to this slave before he went away, the slave was loyal and a good worker during his absence, then on his return he found him looking after his animals as he asked.
now i know we all see the parable for what it is .. the jesus character was saying "whilst i'm gone, you have to remain loyal and obediant and ready for my return etc".
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cobaltcupcake
They should take a lesson from Wile E. Coyote - always think things through.
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For What It's Worth...
by jeremiah18:5-10 ini've been a member here for approx 4 months now.
i've made all of 68 posts.. on the otherhand, i visit the site daily and try to read every thread.
unfortunately i travel alot for work.
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cobaltcupcake
Bugger - Welcome!
Jeremiah - I understand the feeling. I'm pretty new here too, but I was a JW for 32 years, and it took me awhile to get my bearings once I was out, so I didn't look for forums for a few years. Having a large number of posts isn't important. It's like Abraham Lincoln said, "It's better to be silent and be thought an fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
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A JW mother and her children just came to my door......
by haboob48 infirst of all let me say that i choked!
i choked because i told myself if they came back that i would have a field day!
didn't happen.
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cobaltcupcake
Chicken Little - LOL! That is perfect!
I don't open my door to strangers, unless they're bringing me pizza.
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If you have had the CO or DO over for a meal...
by A question inhow long were they able to stay?
what conversation or other things did you do together?.
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cobaltcupcake
We had the CO stay with us a couple of times. One of them actually came outside and tossed the Frisbee around with us.
Had them over for a meal many times - usually a very nice time.
One time my family was away for the DC (at a time when you could pick which one you wanted to attend, so half of the congregation went to one and the other half went to another) when it was time for the CO visit. They stayed at our house while we were gone and, looking over our phonograph records, found a "Bert and I" album (a duo who specialized in Maine humor) that had some naughty words on it (like "damn" and "hell"). When we returned the PO took my Dad aside and mentioned what they'd found. Needless to say, when we got home Dad smashed the record to pieces and threw it away. Mind you, we were still pretty new.
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Did you feel guilty for not pioneering?
by brokethechain ini started pioneering the month i finished high school, and never stopped until i awakened, 17 years later.
it seems like the entire time, there was so much emphasis on pioneering.
every field service meeting seemed to have a part that communicated the message that jehovah would zap us at the big a. or people would die because of us if we didn't have extenuating circumstances (i always translated as bad health or kids, but even then, there were always "examples" of the mom with 5 kids that was pioneering).
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cobaltcupcake
I used to "temporary pioneer" (75 hours for the first month, 100 hours for each consecutive month thereafter) one month each summer while I was in school, but then I got married right out of high school. By then it was "auxiliary pioneering" (60 hours a month), and I kept doing that for the first year and a half of my marriage. I felt guilty for not regular pioneering, but I couldn't stomach 100 hours of FS every month, especially with the harsh winters we had in Maine.
I had to get a full-time job after a while, and then I couldn't pioneer at all. Felt guilty, guilty, guilty, especially during those service meeting parts that gave the example of the blind sister with the unbelieving mate, 5 kids, and a wooden leg who regular pioneered. Or the parts that mentioned the fanatical zeal of the brothers in Japan where apparently there were whole congregations of pioneers.
Guilt got me to try auxiliary pioneering while working full-time. It nearly killed me.
Guilt got me to try regular pioneering twice, both times a miserable failure (because I loathed FS). Then I got to experience a different type of guilt.
So, yes, I felt guilty.
Pioneering, A Misnomer at Best
Scottleblog - The Odd Life of Jehovah's Witnesses
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Is "full-time service" a cult within a cult?
by brokethechain inaccording to the bite model, mind control groups keep their members busy, tell them they are special, have special lingo, etc.. doesn't that make "full-time ministers" into a deeper level of mind control?
it's a "special privilege" to be among those "ranks", there are extra meetings "anual pioneer meeting", "pioneer school", and a whole other level of guilt/indocrination/control for keeping pioneers/bethelites busy.
as "examples", they shouldn't socialize too much, they shouldn't miss field service groups, they should start their time early, they should study all the publications, etc.
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cobaltcupcake
The cult like attributes of being a JW are definitely more pronounced at Bethel.
Amen to that. My brother was a Bethelite for 18 years and even got to get married while in Bethel. I visited him there many times, and got to see it first hand. There are rules about every stinking thing. One time I was eating in the Bethel dining room and absent-mindedly used the butter knife to spread it on the bread. Audible gasps around the table and a stern look from my brother. Later I got a lecture from him. Jeepers! And I'm 2 years older than he is.
My parents worshipped him and were always urging me to encourage him and his wife. "They work so hard at Bethel." Yes, dammit, and I have a full-time job, work my a$$ off in the ministry and in the congregation, but nobody cleans my house for me or cooks my meals or does my laundry.
Oh, and every word that dropped from his mouth was a holy nugget. I remember telling my father about some piece of news I'd heard from a visiting Bethel speaker and him poo-pooing it. Then a couple of days later he called me with the exact same piece of news, except he'd heard it from my brother. Now it was official.
