Posts by Solzhenitsyn

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2 Gallons of Coffee

by Solzhenitsyn in

that is how much coffee me and another elder went through as we camped out all night until 7 a.m. outside the home where suspected jw fornicators we're staying.

little did i know what a powerful contrast that would prove to be when as an elder i was faced with another case involving the allegation of severe child sexual abuse.

we disfellowshipped the couple based completely on circumstantial evidence of sexual wrongdoing because they simply "stayed the entire night".

Solzhenitsyn

No Pete Zahut, not in WA state. In Georgia.

I was a new elder and eager to police, control, spiritually kill, love, shepherd, get some district convention parts under my belt, ect...

My point in the OP was that this single ridiculous JW policing event was that: we will destroy innocent people over "strong circumstantial evidence" but will protect child molesters over strong circumstantial evidence. These 2 contrasting acts produced an ultimate hypocrisy that assisted in waking me up and saving my life and that of my family.

Chapter 12 pp.7

Strong Circumstantial Evidence of Sexual Immorality (Porneia): If at least two eyewitnesses report that the accused stayed all night in the same house with a person of the opposite sex (or with a known homosexual) under improper circumstances, judicial action may be warranted. (w18.07 p. 32)

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Brooklyn Eagle article about the restored Bossert Hotel. Lovely photos of lobby, rooms, etc.

by AndersonsInfo in

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https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/06/07/inside-the-hotel-bossert/.

brooklyn heights’ legendary hotel bossert, which for three decades was closed to the public while the jehovah’s witnesses owned it, will reopen soon.. the brooklyn eagle has published this piece of news on multiple occasions in the last five years — as well as numerous stories about start-date delays.. this time, it looks like the relaunch of the waldorf-astoria of brooklyn, as it was known, might really happen.

Solzhenitsyn

To walk back into that building someday will be surreal.

The number of nights i slept there, meals eaten there, friends met in the lobby.....geeeze

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2 Gallons of Coffee

by Solzhenitsyn in

that is how much coffee me and another elder went through as we camped out all night until 7 a.m. outside the home where suspected jw fornicators we're staying.

little did i know what a powerful contrast that would prove to be when as an elder i was faced with another case involving the allegation of severe child sexual abuse.

we disfellowshipped the couple based completely on circumstantial evidence of sexual wrongdoing because they simply "stayed the entire night".

Solzhenitsyn

No Carla....we were in plain sight.

Jajajaja

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2 Gallons of Coffee

by Solzhenitsyn in

that is how much coffee me and another elder went through as we camped out all night until 7 a.m. outside the home where suspected jw fornicators we're staying.

little did i know what a powerful contrast that would prove to be when as an elder i was faced with another case involving the allegation of severe child sexual abuse.

we disfellowshipped the couple based completely on circumstantial evidence of sexual wrongdoing because they simply "stayed the entire night".

Solzhenitsyn

Yes it was a lot of coffee, and yes we would get out of the car to pee in the bushes from time of time.

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2 Gallons of Coffee

by Solzhenitsyn in

that is how much coffee me and another elder went through as we camped out all night until 7 a.m. outside the home where suspected jw fornicators we're staying.

little did i know what a powerful contrast that would prove to be when as an elder i was faced with another case involving the allegation of severe child sexual abuse.

we disfellowshipped the couple based completely on circumstantial evidence of sexual wrongdoing because they simply "stayed the entire night".

Solzhenitsyn

That is how much coffee me and another Elder went through as we camped out all night until 7 a.m. outside the home where suspected JW fornicators we're staying.

Little did I know what a powerful contrast that would prove to be when as an elder I was faced with another case involving the allegation of severe child sexual abuse.

We disfellowshipped the couple based completely on circumstantial evidence of sexual wrongdoing because they simply "stayed the entire night". They vehemently denied engaging in any sort of porneia much less outright fornication. Nevertheless according to our elder handbook and clear branch direction, we removed this "wicked couple" as a protection to the congregation.

In contrast (and in accordance with our elders handbook and clear Branch legal and service desk direction) we did nothing to an alleged sexual abuser who would not confess to anything, but in graphic detail had described by the victim disgusting abuse at his hands.

Perhaps there is another JW elder out there who walked in my shoes, or mine in his?

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Were You A Gullible JW?

by minimus in

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i think every congregation has their group that sees everything as a sign that they are god’s chosen people.

if a witness didn’t go to a meeting and a storm came and destroyed their house and killed them, and only the kingdom hall was saved, that was a sign that we should be in jehovah’s house.

if russia persecuted jws , it’s proof we are living in the last days.

Solzhenitsyn

In hindsight...yep.

If Tony Morris had banged on my front door at 2 in the morning waking me out of a sound sleep, told me to grab my keys and follow him as he got in his car and sped away.... I'd have done just that without question (think 2" paintbrush vs. 4" paintbrush) following his tail lights at high-speed right off the edge of a cliff.

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Virginia Beach Shooting Victim a JW

by RubaDub in

i didn't see it mentioned here yet, but this week at morning worship in bethel it was mentioned that one of the women shot and killed in the virginia beach shooting was a jw.. rub a dub.

Solzhenitsyn

And just like we learned at our regional convention on Love.....we only give a crap if one of our own is involved:

https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/Mass-Shooting-in-Virginia-Beach-United-States/

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Those that need to see a Therapist / and those that don`t is there a correlation of the two ?

by smiddy3 in

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there have been a number of threads / posts here over the years about ex jw`s needing to see therapists for what they are going through , and i can appreciate that.. obviously there are many ex jw`s on here that haven`t ever felt the need to see a therapist ,and i`m just wondering why not ?.

why does one feel the need and another does not ?.

is it to do with born ins as against those who were converts ?

Solzhenitsyn

I would love to have a definitive answer to this question.

Since exiting the organization I've been able to gather together a half dozen+ ex-JW elders. We meet for lunch fairly regularly and I'm convinced there is a very different healing path between those born into the JW bubble and those who later in life converted to the JW bubble after having had real world life training.

Another anomaly is the difference between born ins who leave and converts who leave and whether or not they remain believers vs. athiest/agnostic.

Fascinating really.

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Anybody been to the therapist to talk about the Jdub stuff? What did they think of it?

by nowawake14 in

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what was their view of jdub rules?.

what was their view on the dfing thing?.

did they get pissed and think it was a cult?.

Solzhenitsyn

As was mentioned before, therapists who specialize in religious cult victims and their recovery, are rare.

I was able to find one who has patiently worked with me every week for nearly a year-and-a-half. She even watched many of the j-dub videos, and played them for me during therapy sessions, hitting pause from time to time to explain the details of how what was being seen and heard is emotionally abusive.

In addition to PTSD recovery, EMDR therapy, and an amazing amount of professional patience, she helped me round the corner.

Marriage saved and still together as a family with all of us miraculously having exited one of the most dangerous religious cults in the world.

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Do any of you born into the cult feel like your mental growth was stunted?

by rockemsockem in

being born in to me was devastating.

when you are a child born in and raised with the they vs us and they are evil and worldly and going to die.

not allowed to form relationships with anyone not one of you.

Solzhenitsyn

Mentally and emotionally stunted for sure for those of us who were tried and true born and raised in what ultimately turned out to be a dystopia (negative UNreality).

From being read Bible stories inutero back in 1978 of Jehovah killing non Jehovah's witnesses in the flood, to Stormtroopers bursting in and elders shredding documents and deleting Google drives before being hauled off to JW jail.....

I was never trained nor developed the ability to recognize my true problems much less solve them on my own. Or even recognize that the problems and deficiencies I had were even really problems to begin with. I was raised from infancy by an organization in essence. A tried-and-true narcissistic, emotionally abusive, male.

Thank God for a loving and patient wife and therapist trained in religious cult recovery & PTSD care.