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ExoMars Arrival - Schiaparelli
by TheWonderofYou in16 october: separation of schiaparelli from tgo at 14:42 gmt / 16:42 cest 17 october: tgo orbit-raising manoeuvre at 02:42 gmt / 04:42 cest19 october: tgo mars orbit insertion and schiaparelli entry, descent and landing on mars (atmospheric entry expected 14:42 gmt / 16:42 cest, landing 14:48 gmt / 16:48 cest).
https://livestream.com/esa.
https://www.facebook.com/europeanspaceagency/.
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Bad Blood - when safe blood turns into bad blood - The patients' body reaction
by TheWonderofYou indespite that the sensational title „bad blood“ was selected to „scare?“ the public.
„bad blood - volte-face in intensive care medicine" by ulricke gehring, 2014. available in english .
its about the fight against public unawareness and resistance.
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TheWonderofYou
Already seen?
https://www.amazon.com/Your-Body-Choice-Shannon-Farmer/dp/981041708X
This book was published in 2000 the same year as the Geneve
1st European Congress on Bloodless Health Care“
occurred.
Shannon Farmer is Coordinator of the Center for Bloodless Medicine and Surgery at Freemantle Kaleeya Hospital in Perth, Western Australia. Farmer was involved in setting up Kaleeya's bloodless surgery program in 1990, the first private hospital in Australia to establish such a center.
There are currently more than 200 hospitals throughout the United States offering similar medical services. Farmer is a member of the National Association for Bloodless Medicine and Surgery (NABMS), part of a worldwide network linking coordinators, researchers and some of the world's leading surgeons and medical specialists. He is also a member of the Network for Advancement of Transfusion Alternatives (NATA) founded in Graz, Austria.
Review by Marvin Shilmer
A reading of Your Body Your Choice, by Shannon Farmer and David Webb, is educational. As advertised, language usage and subject approach is kept reasonably readable for the medical layperson.
I find Farmer and Webb's statements regarding the subject accurate for the most part, though here and there are found inconsistencies that are probably minor to most readers.
For example, the Preface includes the statement that "some experts are predicting blood transfusion will be obsolete within 10 to 15 years." Yet in other sections of the book we find premises based on future increases in the use of blood medically. For example, regarding blood availability for transfusion, on page 76 and 77 we find the statement "Experts predict an annual four million unit deficit by the year 2030." Blood availability for transfusion is only a problem if blood transfusion remains a viable medical practice, and 2030 is well beyond a 10 to 15 year point of obsolescence. Farmer and Webb also cite medical authorities indicating that medical use of blood transfusion has viability extending beyond 10 to 15 years. For example, on page 144 Dr. Aryeh Shander is quoted as saying, "Long-term is establishing the fact that allogeneic transfusions are a thing of the past and will never be seen again in medicine." Such a statement contains no indication that all blood transfusions will be obsolete in the long-term but rather only allogeneic transfusions. So which of these expert opinions should we trust when it comes to blood transfusions 10 to 15 years from now? Farmer and Webb do not answer this question though the statement in the Preface leads readers to conclude something inconsistent with the main text.
Notably Farmer and Webb frequently refer to patients refusing uses of blood for religious reasons. Since Farmer is a member of the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses and since members of this religion are most notable for refusing various uses of blood then we must conclude at least some of the references apply to Jehovah's Witness patients. (The bibliography also evidences this)
As Farmer is a member of the Jehovah's Witness community I must applaud him in particular -- I have no idea of Webb's religious affiliation -- because he walks such a fine line of providing reasonably accurate information contrary to what many Jehovah's Witnesses want to believe, but without upsetting his religious affiliation. I say this because notable members of his religion have endorsed this book -- such as Jan Wade. Farmer has found a way of accurately informing the public and Jehovah's Witnesses that sometimes uses of blood are medically necessary even though a person's religious beliefs may forbid those uses. In the main he does this by letting experts do the talking rather than making the assertion himself. For example, rather than saying himself that sometimes transfusion of allogeneic blood is medically necessary he quotes an authority. In this instance he quotes Dr. Richard K. Spence as saying of "bloodless medicine" that "These alternatives are far ranging and include... predonation of blood,... modification of both transfusion triggers and surgical techniques and the use of leucoreduced allogeneic blood when it is necessary." Surely Farmer knows that his religion forbids predonation of blood and using leucoreduced allogeneic blood for transfusion, yet he has found a way to accurately convey that these are sound medical practices when indicated, and sometimes necessary. In this way Farmer, and Webb, help educated patients that in some cases use of allogeneic blood is necessary to preventing premature death and/or preserving health. In these cases a choice otherwise means suffering premature death, a sobering thought. -
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ExoMars Arrival - Schiaparelli
by TheWonderofYou in16 october: separation of schiaparelli from tgo at 14:42 gmt / 16:42 cest 17 october: tgo orbit-raising manoeuvre at 02:42 gmt / 04:42 cest19 october: tgo mars orbit insertion and schiaparelli entry, descent and landing on mars (atmospheric entry expected 14:42 gmt / 16:42 cest, landing 14:48 gmt / 16:48 cest).
https://livestream.com/esa.
https://www.facebook.com/europeanspaceagency/.
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16 October: Separation of Schiaparelli from TGO at 14:42 GMT / 16:42 CEST
17 October: TGO orbit-raising manoeuvre at 02:42 GMT / 04:42 CEST
19 October: TGO Mars orbit insertion and Schiaparelli entry, descent and landing on Mars (atmospheric entry expected 14:42 GMT / 16:42 CEST, landing 14:48 GMT / 16:48 CEST)https://www.facebook.com/EuropeanSpaceAgency/
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/ExoMars/Live_updates_ExoMars_arrival_and_landing
I am curious.
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Bad Blood - when safe blood turns into bad blood - The patients' body reaction
by TheWonderofYou indespite that the sensational title „bad blood“ was selected to „scare?“ the public.
„bad blood - volte-face in intensive care medicine" by ulricke gehring, 2014. available in english .
its about the fight against public unawareness and resistance.
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Dr. Arthur Caplan, Medical Ethicist, 2009, quote: youtube at 3:19
"That went to that weird alliance between very strange bedfellows J.W. who never liked blood didnt wanna use blood and a scientific community that wanted to figure out how we gonna do surgery if we cant use the blood because it might be infected."
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How Many Deaths For lack of a Transfusion
by Giordano inhow many jw’s die each year for want of a blood transfusion?
according to the red cross and various national blood banks 4.5 million american lives are saved each year by blood transfusions.
... https://rrvbc.org/blood-facts/ .
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The AUSTRALASIAN ANAESTHESIA 2011 Blue Book has a quote from a doctor, Anne-Marie Welsch, that is the highest figure I have found. She does not source her quote, but Australia is notorious for being a hot bed for JW blood management people and it would not surprise me if the source is the JWpeople involved in Australia's blood management. "It is estimated that approximately 1000 Jehovah’s Witnesses die annually worldwide and as many as 100,000 may have died by abstaining from blood transfusions since the blood ban was introduced in 1945. "
This website has some figures: http://ajwrb.org/
Maternal deaths rates:
Marvin Shilmer posted the following calculation to the Jehovahs-Witness.com discussion forum:
"Assuming an annual birth rate of 20 per 1,000, and based on the Watchtower organization's annual statistics, over the period of 1995 through 2006 there were at least 1,455,000 births among Jehovah's Witnesses. Assuming these women presented themselves as refusing blood, this translates into 1,455 deaths during this period." 6
If all had accepted transfusions when needed, only 21 might have died. The Jehovah's Witness' policy on blood transfusions might thus have caused on the order of 10 preventable deaths a month, 120 a year, within their organization.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness11.htm
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Why do the health authorities not raise and publish concrete numbers?
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FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion
by AndersonsInfo ini just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.
eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.
she died because of her religious principles.
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TheWonderofYou
SRY for posting so much...
The legal department and the HLC have successfully made a "Legal subject" of those cases, whereas it should be "moral subject". ---- just to allow the surgeons and advocates to "whitewash their conscience" and to distract of the joint guilt of all participants. Nobody has guts.
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FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion
by AndersonsInfo ini just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.
eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.
she died because of her religious principles.
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TheWonderofYou
From J.W. no-blood /bleeding promotion on the homepage of the cult
Myth: Many Witnesses, including children, die each year as a result of refusing blood transfusions.
Fact: This statement is totally unfounded. Surgeons regularly perform such complex procedures as heart operations, orthopedic surgery, and organ transplants without the use of blood transfusions. * Patients, including children, who do not receive transfusions usually fare as well as or better than those who do accept transfusions. *In any case, no one can say for certain that a patient will die because of refusing blood or will live because of accepting it.
How so, if everybody in the hospital (surgeons, HLC, family) knew that she would certainly die?
Those J.W. advocates (Hospital Liaison Committee members) knew for certain that she would die.
They had prepared a blood-card and had urged her to undersign it under supervision, so that she would bleed in case of hospitalizion.And the surgeons and the lawyers have not guts any more!
Who will care for the child, the community?
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How Many Deaths For lack of a Transfusion
by Giordano inhow many jw’s die each year for want of a blood transfusion?
according to the red cross and various national blood banks 4.5 million american lives are saved each year by blood transfusions.
... https://rrvbc.org/blood-facts/ .
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AJWRB: Expressed another way, for every one hundred "bloodless" operations on Jehovah's Witnesses, one death can be attributed to blood refusal.
Since there are about 1 million Jehovah's Witnesses in the United States, about 15,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have conditions, which normally require blood transfusions. If we estimate the rate of additional death attributable to blood loss about 1%, about 150 Jehovah's Witnesses are dying each year in the United States due to blood refusal. Furthermore, there are 6 million baptized Jehovah's Witnesses and about the same number of sympathizers and inactive members worldwide. So we can conservatively multiply this figure by a factor of six. The resulting estimate shows that approximately 900 Jehovah's Witnesses die annually throughout the world as a result of the blood prohibition.
So your estimation of 1000 refusers dying each year correlates (accidentally?) with the 900 dying each year from AJWRB. I dont like statistics and momentanously I cant understand your breakdown. But it is very interesting. Dont forget to promote: http://ajwrb.org/
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FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion
by AndersonsInfo ini just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.
eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.
she died because of her religious principles.
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TheWonderofYou
http://fr.canoe.ca/sante/nouvelles/archives/2016/10/20161014-221137.html?utm_medium=cxense&utm_source=journaldemontreal.com&utm_campaign=reco#cxrecs_s
Another J.W. mother from Germany, who died 2008
The mother begged the surgeons on her knees for blood for her daughter
The mother, who is said to have begged the doctor on knees for blood for her daughter had no sucess. The hospitalized J.W. woman had a a six year-old daughter and in the fourth month of the 2nd pregnancy she had been bleeding. After refusing the transfusion, her condition had deteriorated hour after hour.
The management of the hospital said doctors would have to consider patients' will. The fact that this could be wrong from a medical perspective, does not matter for their legal liability.
Also, the present husband and twelve other Jehovah's Witnesses did not respond to the plea of the woman's mother and did not intervene. First, the fetus died, then the woman lost consciousness.
The doctors had tried in vain to save the life of her patient with blood substitutes. But blood substitutes could not save her.
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FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion
by AndersonsInfo ini just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.
eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.
she died because of her religious principles.
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TheWonderofYou
I've been visiting the grave of another young victim who died because it refused blood today. The grave is next to the grave of my grandma.
Thats so sad. "She did not want to die". She was convinced that bloodless replacments would help her.
If all hospitals would report their deaths of J.W ...perhaps something would change.