Posts by TheWonderofYou

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DESTROYING the Governing Body’s claim of authority

by TerryWalstrom in

destroying the governing body’s claim of authority.

begin at the beginning.

what source authority did early christians have?.

TheWonderofYou

1922 "kingdom" became new brand and mark of russelits.

For example, close to 20,000 Kingdom supporters convened for an international convention in Cedar Point, Ohio, U.S.A., in September 1922. Just imagine their excitement when Brother Rutherford delivered the talk entitled “The Kingdom” and declared: “Behold, the King reigns! You are his publicity agents. Therefore advertise, advertise, advertise, the King and his kingdom.”

So before 1922 the kingdom message, how was it understood, did it play a role at all, and was the earthly hope proclaimed before or after 1922?

1940 F.Rutherford said on the convention in the talk entitled "The End" that "since 1922 Jehovahs conventant people has been busy enaged in the work of getting known the kingdom of god. In this they had much tribulatio and far greater joy....prophesies..evidence for the fact that armagedon is very near..."

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Is shunning unscriptual?

by MrTheocratic in

international version 1 cor 5:11. but now i am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler.

do not even eat with such people.. if shunning is wrong.

.how does one explain this scripture?.

TheWonderofYou

If shunning assumes the shape of a "ritual punishment by not talking/phoning" would be very sad. The nasty "shunning" behaviour of the congregation should not be a reason for someones falling into yet deeper problems, suicide, drugs, atheism,...

Besides the considered aspect "purity" of the congregation, the personal development and future of a person is a indispensable and obvioulsy most important part of the whole matter concerning responsibilt especially for jounger members. Therefore a gradual form of disciplination withouth causing someone to stumble would be "a biblical" answer in a "community of disciples" like exclusion from taking bread or wine or.. But why everything has to be public announced at all arent there other measures that are more senseful.

Matthew prompts (Ch.18) the whole congregation to think about the consequences if one of the "little ones" or "wandering sheeps" would perish by overhastly reaction or judgments of "unmercifal servants", what is a warning not only for "elders", but for each "sister" and "brothers".

"It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea".

Who is really appropriate to bring someone back on the "right" track? Only few women and men are really appropriate to do such an important job in a "community".

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Reaction of the JW believers to the 2016 RC

by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

there are threads on the content of the rc and reaction of awake jws here, but how are indoctrinated jws reacting to the convention.

my family and i have not attended yet, but i am bracing myself for it.

anybody talking in jw circles?

TheWonderofYou

Jehovahs loyal love is more precious than life. Why? Any convention notes?

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Global life expectancy increases to 71.4 years

by berrygerry in

haven't noticed this posted:.

life is getting longer, reports world health organisation, at the fastest rate since the 1960s.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/19/global-life-expectancy-increases-by-five-years-to-71-who.

TheWonderofYou

What next? It is demonstrated herewith that a God did not fix the number of years with 30 or 40 but that the number of years we live is determined by many evolutionary processes in our genes. And I missed a divine testimonal in the nature and found the turtles with lifespan of approx. 180 years. By which God demonstrates that not he did limit our lifespan but the evolution did it and we should not blame him. The desertgod (mountaingod) is on our side if the matters is the prolongation of life, option for eternity. What refers to the possible soon destruction: Learning from the turtles we shall responsibly not destroy our nature and we will sustain our planet, and remain cool, because for turtles there wont be a "Armageddon".

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Day 1 @ the RC

by Shunned Again in

morning part 1. .

.chairmins address.

show loyalty by shunning family memebers no mater what.. part2 be loyal in thought.

TheWonderofYou

Do you have the impression that this is now the final preparation of the "bride" awaiting yearningly and happily the arrival of her "bridegroom" (Christ)?

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The last video in the 2016 convention...

by problemaddict 2 in

...is an epic triumph is emotional manipulation.

bringing together all of the stories they told thus far and placing them int he "new world" complete with the little boy who was killed in a car accident coming back from the dead.. i have a good friend who is stuck in with family and plays the role.

he said everyone was crying, and the people next to him rated the videos by how many tissues they needed to dry their eyes.

TheWonderofYou

I listened to other similar epic pieces of music. So I found

WORLD OF DREAMS by FUTURE WORLD MUSIC thats pretty nice, it has similar sound to the

sound of the video in the OP. Perhaps they could switch to that one for the Resurrection scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdOgIqJuqJg

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Environmentalists? Not Necessarily, Helping Nonetheless....

by Doubtfully Yours in

whether the average jw appreciates it or not (i certainly do not), the wtbts sure is helping in the environmentalists' movement of creating as much a paperless society as possible in order to preserve trees and create other favorable situations for humanity, such as avoiding so much trash and chemical waste involved in the printing/shipping process.. in order to help me adjust to this new phase within the org, i've reasoned it all this way.

anybody else recognizes that this going all out electronic/computerized is, of course, first a most profitable effort, but also has a secondary benefit of helping out to preserve the environment.......?!.

dy.

TheWonderofYou

But how if for each JWs using a iPad once a year or for each 100 printed silversword-bibles they - the watchtower - would plant one tree or pay into a corresponding CO2 project.... that would be a wonderful witness and contribution to our climate and a good article in Awake.

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Old Letter to the Governing Body

by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

this is an older letter i wrote to the gb in october last year in regards to their policy around shunning of dissociated ones.

the letter doesn't focus on the disfellowshiped, but am in the process right now of writing to them regarding their recent watchtower on shunning disfellowshipped relatives.. the letter i wrote back in october rambles on a bit, but wanted to express my frustration to the governing body about their very unfair policy toward those who simply choose to leave.. regards.

the governing body.

TheWonderofYou

Opinions are the hardest walls to conquer in this world

and many tried and failed

specially those grown around the tweaked watchtower arguments

those are unscalable for millions and hard to uncover

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The older the tower the greater its power

if its name would disappear

the world would miss the sudden fear

Hoooo - a new Armageddon cover appeared!

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A couple of fearless encircled the tower Reform Reform

fresh tweak opinion - for those who leave - and family love for for those who stay

Only one try please life could be so much better! If it goes well?

Awesome! Awesome! Sheer lunacy!

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Woe, woe, Only loyal have protection

Scrunch - that was the end for them

that serves them right.

they spoke against the host.

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I think I figured out their strategy with all the creepy videos

by JeffT in

i came in during all the hype over 1975. the predictions about that date were the real driver behind all their activity.

since then, they haven't had a good goad to prod the sheep.

they seem to be smart enough not to try another date.. i think they plan to use fear instead.

TheWonderofYou

Children should not watch these videos.

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Environmentalists? Not Necessarily, Helping Nonetheless....

by Doubtfully Yours in

whether the average jw appreciates it or not (i certainly do not), the wtbts sure is helping in the environmentalists' movement of creating as much a paperless society as possible in order to preserve trees and create other favorable situations for humanity, such as avoiding so much trash and chemical waste involved in the printing/shipping process.. in order to help me adjust to this new phase within the org, i've reasoned it all this way.

anybody else recognizes that this going all out electronic/computerized is, of course, first a most profitable effort, but also has a secondary benefit of helping out to preserve the environment.......?!.

dy.

TheWonderofYou

1 iPad CO2 emits (new iPad has 180 kg CO2 emissions)

= a 515 mile drive

= production of 24 books

= 3 years daily newpapers

= how much paper-watchtowers

55 mio iPads = 7,590000 metric tons of CO2e gas

Forecast: 8 mio Jehovahs witnesses = 1.104.000 metric tons of Co2 emission emitted by Jehovahs witnesses.

Read more about the consequences of using iPads in service (killed workers in factories, nuclear energy ...)

http://mashable.com/2012/04/20/how-green-is-the-ipad/#T6._690K6uq3