Posts by TheWonderofYou

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Expect 90% of pimi's to go down with the ship here's why

by nowwhat? in

i have been feeding my very pimi brother tidbits and clippings of all the csa issues coming to light the last five years and all the org's business dealings of hundreds of closed halls congs dissolving etc.

and reminding him of all the failed prophecies etc etc.

although he would listen and acknowledge.

TheWonderofYou

There is no US airforce, Soviet army equivalent bearing down on wtBtS. inc.

However in the mind set of JWs has to be always be upheld a certain a fear of persecution from all sides. Without tue persecution komplex the fearmingering wird Armageddon ideology has little target.

German people gave up the Nazi ideology without any struggle at all.

Similarly JWs would say: "Some believed in that and that, but that was until the Slave Governing Body died off and got its heavenliy reward. It is not possible that so many died because they refused a lifesaving transfusion. It is not possible that they covered up crimes or Destroyed families We never did that. Anyway thats old trash. Now we go with the time."

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Death of NASA Legend Aged 101

by cofty in

katherine johnson passed away today aged 101. she was the subject of the excellent movie hidden figures that told the story of her amazing work as a mathematician calculating trajectories for space flights.. 'ms.

johnson helped our nation enlarge the frontiers of space even as she made huge strides that also opened doors for women and people of color in the universal human quest to explore space.

' - nasa .

TheWonderofYou

Katherine Johnson

The film gave me a new idea of how segregation even up to the 1950s influenced daily life of women. How hard it was for the african-american population to get higher education or a better job. In regards to NASA: "Black women at first used separate office, dining and bathroom facilities, but their abilities won them a level of acceptance ay NASA that was ahead of its time in the US." AFP

Interesting to see, how in the NASA offices women worked on tasks like calculating manually the space trips before IBM computers functioned. But even after the computers were able to calculate faster austronauts relied on her math gift and let her manually check the coordinates e.g. of the landing site . "Along with colleagues, she plotted John Glenn's course when he became the first American to orbit the Earth in 1962. Before embarking on the mission, Glenn asked that Johnson personally re-check the computer-produced figures on a mechanical calculating machine -- a task that took one and a half days of intense work." AFP

In the film also includes a scene at 56:15 when she appealed at court after she was rejected to study at a white school in Hampton. There was never before a afro-american at a white school before in Virgina. In the film she was very well prepared when she spoke to the judge. She argued that the only choice for her to become engineer at NASA is to get this studies at the white Hampton High School.

To the question "Why should a coloured woman study at a white school, which had not happened before?" she answered: that "she had no other choice than to be the first to become an engineer at NASA" and she asked the judge: "in hundred years, which case will yet be remembered of all cases he has today, which case will make him the FIRST?" Nice moment. The judge answered: "O my god. ......only the evening courses".

This scene is a hint to here role in the legal desegregating of higher education. More. More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/25/katherine-johnson-should-also-be-remembered-desegregating-higher-education/

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The "Good Old Days" - what made em' good?

by Terry in

jw
friends

have you ever heard the phrase:.

well, since i can't sleep tonight - you're gonna hear my version of what it means.. .

so, just suck it up and deal.. .

TheWonderofYou

Sadly I cannot imagine how a Radioday might have been like.... we often watch Netflix together but how much brutality is shown in the films. Often we switch such scenes. Often we like listening together also symphonical ooncerts.

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30 years after leaving utterly unrecognisable

by Number 6 in

this is the first time i have posted on here in many years..... i seldom visit now although this forum was instrumental to me in gaining my sanity in the early 2000's and recovering from the watchtower religion.. by chance tonight i was on youtube and caught a jw.org video which out of curiosity prompted me to look at the official website and amongst other things i looked up the music section.. why that i hear you ask?

music is my passion and nothing reminds me more or evokes more memories than the kingdom songs i grew up listening to.. i am 49 years old and my mother was baptised in 1974. i grew up in the era of pink songbooks and green bibles.

of the theology of fred franz and types and anti-types.

TheWonderofYou

Hoops. its 2019 already. 2019- 1989 = 30 years. I LEFT Also 1989 with 24. Cheers📣🎺😉🥂

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Satan Hurled Out in 1914 - Will They Say It Was Never Taught?

by Anna Marina in

wbts rewrites/carefully edits their own history.

since 2005, i have been through a lot with with wbts.

recently i came across a suggestions that they will start denying that they ever said satan was hurled out of heaven in 1914.. in my experience, it is one doctrine many ordinary members are clear about - you ask them what supposedly took place in 1914 and they'll say, "satan was hurled out of heaven, therefore world war i started.".

TheWonderofYou

This hurling out of heaven happened shortly after the enthronment of Christ as King, according to the watchtower, e.g. w 1995 July 15th page 5

Satan’s influence on earth is temporary. Jehovah will not tolerate satanic rule much longer! Soon the Devil will be put out of action. A new ruler will take control of the earth, a righteous king chosen by God himself. That King is Jesus Christ. Concerning his enthronement in heaven, Revelation says: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord [Jehovah] and of his Christ.” Revelation 11:15 Bible chronology, together with the fulfillment of Scriptural prophecy, proves that this event took place in the year 1914.— Matthew 24:3,6,7.

The Bible also describes what happened shortly after Jesus’ enthronement. It says: “War broke out in heaven: Michael [Jesus Christ] and his angels battled with the dragon [Satan the Devil], and the dragon and its angels battled but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.”
What would be the result of Satan’s expulsion from heaven? Those in heaven could rejoice, but what about the earth’s inhabitants? “Woe for the earth and for the sea,” says Revelation 12:12, “because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.” Indeed, the casting of Satan out of heaven has brought woe to the earth. The Columbia History of the World states: “The great catastrophe of the Four Years’ War of 1914–1918 . . . showed the Western world that it could not protect civilization from its own stupidity or evil impulse. The spirit of the West has never really recovered from that shattering.”
The woes of this generation are marked by far more than a shattered spirit. Jesus prophesied: “Nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.” He also foretold pestilences. (Matthew 24:7, 8; Luke 21:11) Moreover, the Bible says that in “the last days” of Satan’s system of things, many would be “lovers of themselves, lovers of money, . . . disobedient to parents, . . . not open to any agreement.” People would also be “lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God.”—2 Timothy 3:1-5.
Wars, pestilences, food shortages, earthquakes, and a change for the worse in moral values—all such things have taken place on an unprecedented scale since 1914, just as the Bible foretold. They indicate that the enraged enemy of God and man—Satan the Devil—has been cast out of heaven and now must confine his wrath to the domain of the earth. But the Bible also shows that Satan will not be allowed to operate much longer. He has only “a short period of time” remaining until Armageddon, when God destroys the world system that Satan controls.
What will then happen to Satan? The apostle John wrote: “I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. And he hurled him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him.” (Revelation 20:1-3) What relief for suffering mankind!

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irrefutable proof of the great apostasy that corrupted the catholic church

by TTWSYF in

when the emperor constantine legalized christianity in the roman empire around 311ad he allowed or introduced a flood of half converted pagans and allowed the corruption that sullied the true faith and ruined christianity until a time when it could be restored to the true and pure faith that it was intended to become.

many people here know that to be a fact.

it's a common sense theory, right?.

TheWonderofYou

Thats true, but dont forget the two witnesses we have for the great apostasy:

1. The ugly baby called Christendom, who was born about 100 CE, shortly after John died, who grew up in an atmosphere of falling back to paganism, amusing oneself, wargames, greek philospohy, and a divine sage of a God that had 3 heads and who didnt want to be called Jehovah.

2.The missing link: there were no christians with the right attitude anymore, no anointed blessed with enough holy spirit to take the faithful lead, after 100 CE. cause there were only name christians, professing christians, charlatans after 100 CE.. who missed the right attitude how Splane explained.

Until Constantine the baby was old enough to fully apostate and to destroy any evidence of true worship that ever existed. In consequence all original bibles of the anointed were burned by politicians that harloted with priests. So the way was open for thousands of years of apostasy until 1919 the apostasy was stopped by a group of guys who liked alcohol much and discovered the original texts and customs

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Watchtower appeals in Montana.

by lastmanstanding in

i won’t steal barb’s thunder, but has anyone had a chance to peruse the appeal that watchtower launched yesterday?.

watchtower’s main argument is that stuff was said in confidence with confidentiality surrounding that confidence and they are confident that clergy confidentiality which is in confidence is confidential.. in short, it ‘was a secret and should stay a secret.’.

omg.. and watchtower claims that this verdict “violates the constitution of the usa”.. i wish the jury could tack on another $50m and include watchtower lawyers are to be hanged.. i just had to say something.

TheWonderofYou

Could be the next pseudo-argument. (occurs when those disagreeing are fanatically committed to their positions and refuse to consider other viewpoints .)

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Reaction to GDPR / field service letter

by sir82 in

here is a thread on the new letter to be read to all congregations in all branches on adjustments in door to door work due to the gdpr:.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6274619758608384/2019-boe-elders-letter-may-13-england-ireland-data-protection.

i have...connections....to a foreign language congregation in europe.

TheWonderofYou

Streetservice report from today morining, Elder said: "The list is another sign for the end, This makes it harder to preach for us, we will have to keep everything in mind". Me: Of course it will be hard to work in a territory. However I cannot image that Jesus and the Apostels would go from house to house and make notes after their visits like businessmen." ...Then it would more likely that the nuclear power that could destroy the whole planet and the deathrate from snakebites and the wild beast's activity would be a sign, what he also mentioned. The most time we spoke however about arguments how the church is worse in handling abuse and falsehood than JW, both two big organisations, if anything false happens in a big organisation now this would of course be also a sign of the end.

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What is the current policy on blood?

by stillin in

has there been anything recent?

the last i knew, certain fractions were considered a conscience matter.

blood derived vaccinations were cleared, saying that the blood part has been removed.

TheWonderofYou

none, weren' they told to make always personal decisions, only being allowed to ask for spiritual assistance. So it would be wise to follow there spiritual assistents without causing public sensation or eclat and shaking off the yoke of responsibiliy

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Beautiful New "Kingdom Hall"

by Sea Breeze in

these images were posted on one of my fb news feeds.

they are legit.

looks like an upscale commercial bldg.

TheWonderofYou

Who would ever guess that such halls would be ensnarled in idolatry or worship? Nobody would idolize such a hall. Only see it as commercial building, for commerce seems more anyhow more appropriate for them this is their strenght. They woild never leave out a chance for profit. Therefore simplicity and commercial style is good enough for these snakes. Jw abhore idolization as much as they fear abuse victims. The center of idolization and emotional abuse is however not a building but Jw.org. Dont click it, not get ensnarled!