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  Any word on if the jws can take the Johnson & Johnson Vaccine?

  by mynameislame in

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  looks like there's some controversy among the catholics because the j&j vaccine may be produced using a cell line derived from an aborted fetus.. have the jws made a statement?.

  don't tell me they are going to let themselves be outdone by the catholics..

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  This very information is only revealed to HLC members, standard elders don't know it neither. HLC received a special guideline a few months ago regarding vaccines which answers this question. They will only mention this "aborted fetus" concerns if you ask them directly. No, they won't include this in the congregation announcements for all to hear, this information is secret.

  If you have any HLC member nearby, test this: ask them whether should we take this ingredient issue into consideration or not?

  Their answer is already ready. They can "neither-admit-nor-deny" this guideline and will tell "you are to decide based on your conscience" ... but hey, in fact you can't.
  
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  How to make memorial bread

  by road to nowhere in

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  video in the meeting part.

  i love the stereotypical jew actors, old world kitchen, yiddish accents.

  reading the greatest man book instead of bible.. they did give a nod to non wheat flour but corn and rice would have been unknown at memorial no.

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  The way they show it looks like a ritual. Their Memorial is a ritual and preparing the bread is one another. No wine procedure though.

  

  what was written on that "sophisticated" Memorial bread notes? Are they really caring or treasuring what Jesus commanded?

  JW Notes for the bread:

  1. Pray before starting

  2. Take some flour, pray again. Open some Bible verses. Feel some holiness flow through you.

  3. Put some water and mix it, but very very gently, like a massage. This is a holy bread. Give a prayerful thought on what it must be back then. Open and read some more verses.

  4. Once the mixture is good, gently shape the dough and place it inside the four. It must have a round shape. Yes, you'll put some oil which is not mentioned in the Bible but, hey, are you not trusting the slave? Don't forget to meditate and meditate again and pray during cooking process. Important Note: The oven becomes holy during the process, so no other cooking should be allowed till sundown.

  5. Once the bread is done, it should not be consumed before/after the memorial but discarded as waste. A small final prayer will be good, mentioning how we value this bread and we did not desecrated by eating it, as slave commanded.

  And the Wine?

  Same, but don't mix it with water and put inside oven. Pray before opening and pouring to toilet.

  - Pharisees, version 2 - Ultimate Edition
  

  And voila, you have successfully dishonored Jesus!
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  Life of a pioneer

  by road to nowhere in

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  the song this week.

  it has to be hands down the stupidest one ever.

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  The Bible speaks of the "Unforgivable Sin" ? What is it ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  do any jehovah`s witnesses or ex jehovah`s witnesses even know what that sin is ?.

  why is such a statement in the bible if its not identified what that sin is ?.

  were the authors of the book just playing with peoples heads ?

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  Matthew Poole's Commentary on Matthew 12:32
  

  1. It cannot be any sin that is committed ignorantly. Paul was a blasphemer, but forgiven, because he did it ignorantly.
  

  2. It must be a sin knowingly committed against the operations of the Holy Ghost. So was this sin of the Pharisees.
  3. Apostasy must be an ingredient in it: If they fall away, saith the apostle, Hebrews 6:6. It is a sinning wilfully after the receiving the knowledge of the truth, Hebrews 10:26.
  4. It should seem by this text persecution is an ingredient in it: the Pharisees did not only say this, but they spake it out of malice, designing to destroy Christ.
  5. Most certainly it is, that though impenitency cannot be called that sin, yet it must be an ingredient in it, for what sins we truly repent of shall be forgiven, 1Jo 1:9; and therefore the apostle saith of such sinners, It is impossible they should be renewed by repentance.
  
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  Studying the bible with my oldest kid

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  i no longer believe in the bible as the word of god, but do appreciate the value in teaching it to my kids.

  its teachings influence the life and culture of billions of people today and shaped the history of the world.

  so, i bought a book that quickly goes over the core stories and have discussions about those with my kid.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  I've found the extra books covers all these missing/suspicious parts of the Bible: Book of Enoch, Book of Jasher and The Apocrypha.

  Your questions have their answers in the Book of Jasher. Of course everything can be debated, whether these books can be trusted as reliable or not. Personally I believe they are worth reading, very valuable and provide a deeper insight on the Bible itself by completing its missing parts ... They also show how and why the Bible might been cut, edited and even altered by religions in order to fit in their agenda. This doesn't mean the Bible and all these books should not have any value. They are worth reading.

  So.. let the reader use his/her own judgment and discernment.
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  "The founding of the world"

  by Yalbadaoth in

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  why are wt determined to relate the "founding of the world" to abel and "before the founding of the world" to a period before abel but after adam's sin?

  there seems like a lot of twisting of verses and words to prove a point which always makes me suspicious of their motives!

  (i have my own take on it but would like to hear others).

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  BelisemDeBelimakom

  Yes, the motives are the issue here. The Bible can say anything they want with the "magic" words:

  nwtsty Matthew Study Notes - 25:34

  founding of the world: The Greek word for “founding” is rendered “to conceive” at Heb 11:11, where it is used with “offspring.” Here used in the expression “founding of the world,” it apparently refers to the conception and birth of children born to Adam and Eve. Jesus associates “the founding of the world” with Abel, evidently the first redeemable human of the world of mankind whose name was written in the scroll of life from “the founding of the world.”—Lu 11:50, 51; Re 17:8.

  Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
  

  from the foundation of the world. The place itself, where this happiness is to be enjoyed, was actually made on the first day of the creation, when the heavens were formed, and the foundations of the earth were laid, and the glory itself long before. The Ethiopic version here reads, "before the world"; and the Persic, "before the foundation of the world was laid"; and Grotius himself owns, that the phrase is the same as "before the foundation of the world"; and Dr. Hammond's paraphrase is, "before all eternity": for as early were these persons, the beloved, the chosen, and blessed of the Father: so that this glory must be of free grace, and not merit, or owing to any works of righteousness done by men; since it was not only designed and appointed, but prepared and laid up for persons before they had a being, and had done neither good nor evil. The Jews (e) speak of the law being an inheritance for all Israel, from the six days of the creation; but a much more glorious one is here spoken of: nearer to this is what they say (f) that Bathsheba was appointed to be David's wife from the day that the world was created; and add, but the mystery of the thing is, , "the kingdom that is above", which is called by her name. So in 2 Esdras, "the kingdom is already prepared for you":
  

  
  
  
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  The WT will now produce a Jesus Movie (Series)

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

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  i'm actually looking forward to their warped view of matthew, mark, luke and john for this.

  the drama from 2015 wasn't that bad.

  however.... yeah steven lett mentions othe films about jesu are plagued with false religion.

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  Same with their printed version, they will certainly make the movie ABOUT Jesus Christ but ingeniously, it will glorify their god and governing body instead; Jesus will be used as a decoy.

  Regarding "excessive violence", when it comes to violence depiction in their videos, it is always for good, they have all the rights ... "If God wrote such details, we must not water it down"...

  Why the attention on Jesus now? And such a long project? Maybe they are "preparing the way" for the Anti-Christ, their Christ's arrival.
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  new series "The Good News According to Jesus"

  by neat blue dog in

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  this concept was leaked here not too long ago, and it was just announced at the next section of the 'annual meeting' on jw broadcasting.

  they allude to it being a half hour series and say that it will cover literally every detail in all four gospels in chronological order through the course of all episodes.

  they also insinuate that it's the most ambitious project yet (i guess making use of that new media production facility).

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  The Good News ACCORDING to Jesus?

  -Good News IS Jesus!!
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  ''Faith in Action'' video....Jesus Disciples depicted with ''field service bags'' and preaching with ''Scrolls''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  here is a screenshot from a video on jw.org.

  go to videos, our organization, history .

  jehovah's witnesses—faith in action, part 1: out of darkness.

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  Nephilims attacking first carts... first WT publishers...

  
  
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  ''Faith in Action'' video....Jesus Disciples depicted with ''field service bags'' and preaching with ''Scrolls''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  here is a screenshot from a video on jw.org.

  go to videos, our organization, history .

  jehovah's witnesses—faith in action, part 1: out of darkness.

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  They try to despise Jesus whenever they can... nowadays, more and more overtly. It would be normal now if we see Jesus doing "cart witnessing" back then, and nobody will ever question it like this door-to-door picture of him. Logic has left the building long time ago.

  They can't stand to use/mention Jesus' name in a sentence him alone, giving him the glory... no, but always together with the name "Jehovah". An example was found in last week's WT "study" article: "Jesus is directing the preaching work from heaven, using the power and authority Jehovah has given him".