Uh " irregular attendee " ?! They are distancing themselves for sure. They cannot handle anymore bad press. The local Elders may not have known what was going on with him, or the other family. They are out of touch and unqualified. The real story will come out eventually.
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Whitney Heichels Murderer Was a "Brother"
by daringhart13 inthe girl killed in oregon....found murdered......was killed by a 'brother' in her congregation.. its all hitting the fan in gresham, oregon.
i really hope this wasn't an affair gone bad.
they went to the same congregation and lived in the same apartment complex.. yep.....spiritual paradise.. not going to lie...........i'm filled with rage right now..
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Awake! July 2009 No one should be made to choose between their beliefs and family
by Awen injust as the title says.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw1dfohdkao&feature=related.
peace,.
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King Solomon, I don't usually say things like this, but you are a bigger asshole than anyone on this site. You are a Dr. right? Perhaps you could get your head removed from your ass. Your insulting manner is ridiculous, and you are over thinking this. You don't like Cedars, we all get it. You think you are the most intelligent person on the forum, we all see it. You are transparent, and not nearly as intelligent as you imagine yourself to be. I hate to tell YOU this, wise one, but regurgitating information does not make YOU intelligent. You have stood on your fair share of shoulders in your day. There are not that many people on this site that really care what you think about every matter. Jw's screwed your family or something, they suck, we get it. Direct your anger where it belongs. My grandmother is also dead so please don't be insulting about that. Also, I can kick your ass. Judging from your insulting demeanor you are no doubt a chicken-shit who would piss yourself in a fight. At least you could stitch yourself up when I got through with you, that's a plus.
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Awake! July 2009 No one should be made to choose between their beliefs and family
by Awen injust as the title says.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw1dfohdkao&feature=related.
peace,.
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You are welcome! It makes me sad that we need to even discuss these things. It is the same ol' sh*** as usual. Keep your slaves busy on a treadmill so they never have any breathing room or time to think. How many JW's read a Bible more than the litteratrash? A very small percentage, because if they did, ( reading quotes and snippets of verses in the WT does not count ) they would begin to see that things ain't adding up. Combine that with all the disinformation and restriction of information ( anything critical of the WT ) and the constant guilt trips and fear, and the reminders of how you are nothing without the GB, and you have an abusive relationship. All high control groups and cults do it. It is rare for a member to wake up, that shows the effectiveness of these techniques. Here is an interesting article. It doesn't matter if you believe in a God or not, you will get the point.
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Jehovah's Witnesses: Who Can Baptize?
by Cold Steel inif you're a jehovah's witness and you have a child, spouse, or buddy who wants to be baptized, can you baptize them yourself if they request it?
this is assuming you're a jehovah's witness in good standing.
and is it common in the church?.
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I have not found anything yet that says I cannot baptize someone..... I wonder if the early Bible Students swore their allegience to The Watchtower and CT Russell?
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Jehovah's Witnesses: Who Can Baptize?
by Cold Steel inif you're a jehovah's witness and you have a child, spouse, or buddy who wants to be baptized, can you baptize them yourself if they request it?
this is assuming you're a jehovah's witness in good standing.
and is it common in the church?.
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Well, first of all Cold Steel you left off a couple words. It should be " "Rub a dub dub, another J-Dub!... in a tub! ". Your question is a good one. All Jehovah's witnesses are considered ordained ministers. They can perform Weddings. Why couldn't one baptize another? I wonder.... Think how pissed the GB would be if people started baptizing eachother in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!! Don't the JW higher ups say that if you were baptized in another Religion prior to becoming a dub, that baptism is valid? You dedicated yourself to God in your heart, you just didn't know the " truth ". Parents could really start rocking the boat. Are the GB and the Elders going to judge the validity of someones baptism. especially by an ordained minister?! This could be good.....
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How can anyone really be a 100% confident atheist given the paranormal and occult?
by yadda yadda 2 ini don't believe the bible is inerrant nor do i hold a 'christian worldview' any longer as my profile details say (which i am unable to update on my profile), but i just can't see how anyone can be absolutely 100% confident there is nothing out there we can call a 'god' or spirit creature in the face of endless first-hand accounts of paranormal and occult experiences that felt as 'real' to the person who experienced them as anything else in their lives.. there are untold reports of ghosts, faith-healing, ouija boards, seances, spirit mediums, stigmata, mystical born-again experiences, speaking in tongues, and then there's hypnotism, ufo sightings, poltergeists, remote viewing, etc, etc.
ok, so its mostly only anecdotal evidence, but the amount of it is so overwhelming it is practically corroborating evidence.
in the face of all this, how can anyone categorically assert that there is nothing out there that is beyond ourselves that we might call a 'god' or spirit creature?
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I had a paranormal experience and it was incredible!!! Here is what I saw!! It was a night I will never forget...
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Whitney Heichel's body found on Larch Mt., man charged in murder
by trujw invery sad as was said by a poster earlier our shared one time faith makes it seem as if you knew her.
rip.
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Does this guy have a record?
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Awake! July 2009 No one should be made to choose between their beliefs and family
by Awen injust as the title says.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw1dfohdkao&feature=related.
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Well I am not as smart as King Solomon or Cedars or 00DAD, or 90% of posters here, but I do have common " horse " sense, as Grandma would say.
I don't need a PHD to see double-speak.
We may as well add these statements from the August 15, 2012 WT lesson since we are talking about family bonds.
1) " Daniel was also "a never-say-no elder," as he puts it. He eagerly accepted every privilege that came his way.".
2) " Daniel states, "There is much more to life than struggling to care for privileges to the detriment of your own family."
More double speak when compared to all the do more, give more articles. Here is something Solomon posted:
This is another fine spiritual gem from the january 2013 study edition.
As the great tribulation nears, we do not want to be plagued with such anxious thoughts as these:'could I have done more in God's service? Why didn't I pioneer when I had the opportunity? What prevented me from reaching out to serve as a ministerial servant? Did I put on a real effort to put on the new personality? Am I the sort of person Jehovah wants in his new world? Instead of just worrying about such sobering questions, we want to use them to analyze ourselves and make sure that we are giving our best in Jehovah's service. Otherwise, we could be continuing in a way of life that may result in even more regrets.
WOW! What a disgusting guilt trip from Spiritual Mommy dearest! Pack your bags, its time for a guilt trip! Just try telling the Elders that there is more to your life than struggling to care for priviliges. They may say " ok ", but the understanding will be that you are spiritually struggling because your theocratic productivity has dropped. No one who has ever been, or currently is a JW has any confusion over the hypocrisy of these photos.
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8/15/12 WT--Naughty Elder's Wife Teaches Students "The Deep Things of God"
by sd-7 inpage 28, paragraph 13:.
"an improper romantic relationship could develop within the congregation.
daniel and his wife, sarah, were regular pioneers.
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GET OFF THE TREADMILL!!!!
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8/15/12 WT--Naughty Elder's Wife Teaches Students "The Deep Things of God"
by sd-7 inpage 28, paragraph 13:.
"an improper romantic relationship could develop within the congregation.
daniel and his wife, sarah, were regular pioneers.
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Yeah...ironic. Jw life= Monday-work and personal study i.e read all magazines, Tues-work and prepare for family indoctrination night and KMS and TMS , Wed family indoctrination night, Thursday-Work and go to TMS and KMS, Friday-work and prepare for feild service Saturday. Saturday-no rest just field service till the afternoon ( be there or feel guilty ) that night study for Sunday. Sunday morning-no rest go to meeting and service afterward, then whatever else you may have to do. Monday-repeat for life.. Always do more,more MORE!!! If you can't you are not spiritual. I am shocked that info was included, they must be losing more and more to immorality.