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  Questions Regarding the New Light on the FDS

  by Ding in

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  it's my understanding that the old light regarding the faithful and discreet slave was that in 1918-1919 jesus appointed the faithful and discreet slave over all his house.. but under the new light, it's a two-stage process.. now the "truth" is that in 1919 jesus appointed the governing body to provide spiritual food in due season and the gb will only be placed in authority over his domestics during the great tribulation.. all of this is wt nonsense, but in order to get jws who believe this stuff to think about the implications, my questions are:.

  1. what will the future appointment authorize the governing body to do that is not yet authorized?.

  2. since under the old light the governing body has wrongly believed they have had this authority since 1919, doesn't this mean they have been wrongly exercising authority that jesus hasn't yet given them?.

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  Emery

  Great set a questions! *marked*
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  2013 June Our Kingdom Ministry!

  by Atlantis in

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  Atlantis, you are my hero.
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  July 15 WT- When a Parable is a Prophecy Then a Parable All At Once

  by Comatose in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  notice the explanation from the box on page 24. the parable they say is a prophecy is here confirmed to just be a parable regarding the evil slave.

  how can a prophetic parable to be taken literally revert to a parable on an inconvenient part?

  it's the same parable!!!!.

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  Basically anything that can negatively affect them in the FDS parable can be ignored.
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  Your own mortality, how do you cope with it?

  by CookieMonster in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been a lurker here and an inactive jw for a number of years.

  i've always had some annoying doubts but brushed it aside but over the last few years i've had time to "think" away from the wt.

  perhaps there is no paradise, maybe no god and this life is all there is.

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  I see it this way..

  When I die it will be as it was before I was even born. Conscious of nothing at all.
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  The July 15 Watchtower and all its new light is only...

  by sosoconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  making people cling to the organization more.

  when i found out it was up i told so many people frantically that there is a new study article up and that it had so many changes.

  my mother started crying saying how happy she is to be a part of an organization that is truly directed by jehovah... only the true faithful and discreeet slave could have such insight.... another person began to say how great it is to see the celestial chariot on the move.. .

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  Yup, there is no amount of reasoning you can use as long as they are happy being a JW. Only when their spiritual paradise starts to crumble will they possibly explore the reasons for being a JW. This normally happens when they get disfellowshipped, reproved or when they're at the recieving end of some gross injustice. I have seen subsitute CO's leave the organization because they instantly lost their status in the congregation. It all starts there for many JWs.
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  Confused about Satan's plan according to WTS

  by new22day in

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  2. beliefs

  my rudimentary understanding of jw beliefs is that satan is leading traditional christian religions and the wild beast of the un is his tool.

  is the wts concept that the un will eventually ban all religion and this will start the big a?

  wouldn't satan be working at cross purposes if 'he' is leading the false religions too??

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  Emery

  Like all living creatures we strive to exist until the very bitter end. The WTS says Satan is very desperate because he knows his time is short. So why would Satan pursue a course that will set in motion the proceedings of his demise? It's counter-intuitive to his entire existence. So you're telling me that a super natural, millennially intelligent super being has the blue prints to his survival yet rejects it? Now some will say God has it programmed in prophecy to have this happen, however this will cause me to question why the hell we had to suffer for over 6,000 years of our existence to arrive at something that should have happened thousands of years ago. How much of are lives are divinely programmed? How much free will do we really have then? If God could have created a world with free will and no suffering, wtf didn't he do it in the beginning? Isn't that what paradise or heaven is already destined to be? C'mon man.

  This subject alone can turn anyone agnostic / atheist.
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  Logical Fallacies in WT Publications

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  Identity Crisis: Who Am I?

  by Emery in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after learning ttatt, i have completely abandoned christian fundamentalism.

  thus, dropping many superstitions, prejudices, and biases associated with legalistic interpretations of the bible.

  although i am agnostic, i still adhere to many christian principles, not because i think they are divine truths, but because i've benefited from the wisdom.. since i no longer believe in the inspiration of the bible, i repeatedly find myself falling into questions of conscience, ones which i've never faced before... .

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  After learning TTATT, I have completely abandoned Christian fundamentalism. Thus, dropping many superstitions, prejudices, and biases associated with legalistic interpretations of the bible. Although I am agnostic, I still adhere to many Christian principles, not because I think they are divine truths, but because I've benefited from the wisdom.

  Since I no longer believe in the inspiration of the bible, I repeatedly find myself falling into questions of conscience, ones which I've never faced before...

  WHO AM I?

  Who am I going to be now in disbelief? Who am I now without the fear of divine judgment? Who am I now that I am no longer bound by scripture but by the law of the land? What are my convictions? What prevents me from…

  · Smoking cigarettes?

  · Doing drugs?

  · Becoming a drunkard?

  · Cheating on my spouse?

  · Bad work ethic?

  · Gambling?

  · Being dishonest?

  What are my views now on controversial subjects like…

  · Gay marriage

  · Fire arms

  · War

  · Politics

  Before, I had prescribed responses for all these situations. Fear of being disfellowshipped, reproved, or destroyed at Armageddon shaped my actions for 2 decades. Now at 27, I am re-discovering such views as a stranger in my own body.

  All of my opinions hinged on the authority of the bible and the influence of the Society. The theocratic laws of the Watchtower left little room for the human experience—that is—the natural development of personal integrity and individual conviction. The ability to arrive at our own conclusion is suppressed.

  Examples of this behavior can be seen in JW youths who leave the organization and jump right into bad decisions. Not just youths but parents in their 40s and 50s, who have spent decades praying, reading the bible, and attending meetings, now living like irresponsible teenagers. I have personally observed this as I have woken up a few to TTATT.

  So here are my questions to you…

  Did you have an identity crisis when you learned TTATT ?

  For Believers:

  (Hypothetically) What kind of person would you be if God didn’t exist?

  Thanks, I am looking forward to your replies!
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  If Jesus Could Be Ressurrected On Earth And He Went To Bethel What Would He Tell The Governing Body CEOs?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for starter stop judging and you will not be judged..

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  "what the f*ck are you guys doing?"
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  Growing old and broke... Need advice on making money! Ebay? Ideas?

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was in business with my jw family and they took that over because i am now a worthless apostate.

  i am 50 years old and need to make some moola.

  i am good with ebay and i can build websites.

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  Emery

  Well, something I always tell people stuck in a rut is to get into insurance. We all need it and its one of the few recession proof markets out there. I know its not the most exciting subject but the money and opportunities are there. Get licensed in your state and you can work in a number of positions for an agency, broker, insurance company, or corporation. I got my LA&H 3 years ago and got a job immediately working in Human Resource Communications. There should be schools in your local area where you can go for a week to prepare for the state exam. It may cost you a bit a cash upfront ($200-350) but I promise you its worth it. It looks great on your resume and gets you in the door.

  If you do well with websites and content management look for site maintenence jobs or IT jobs for local businesses. Thing is, many places require a degree in web development or expect you to know and write server side programing before you're allowed to manage their sites. If you need anymore advice on this (web development) PM me.