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Posts by Emery
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23www.JW.org - What the...?
by punkofnice ini've just held my vomit bag in from of me and taken a butchers at www.jw.org.
who is it designed for?.
what's the point of all those sterile vids?.
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This is just plain CRAZY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by wasblind in" jehovah's witnesses were not in the concentration camps because they were criminals.. .
when officers wanted someone to shave them, they trusted a witness with the razor, because they knew that no witness would ever use such an instrument as a weapon to harm another human.. .
when ss officers at the auschwits extermination camp needed someone to clean their homes or care for their children, they selected witnesses, because they knew these would not try to escape.. .
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Emery
Well that sounds nice and I am sure the Witnesses were viewed as harmless but are there any references or quotes by anyone to confirm these statements in the Proclaimers book?
I agree with ya wasblind, soldiers from apostate christendom were the ones who rescued the witnesses. They should be greatful of that fact that millions have lost their of livess for the freedom they excerise today...Hitler wouldn't have been so nice about it had the Nazis won.
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The BEST way to "wake up" a JW
by Phizzy inwe have debated this over many years and in many threads, as all of us have family and/or former friends still in.
it seems that there is no "best" way to wake up a jw, it is as elusive as the "true" religion it seems.. but a comment made by poster "emery" on another thread stood out to me, he/she said :.
"what i have gathered is that most witnesses seem to be in it for emotional reasons.
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Emery
@redvip2000, Exactly!
THE MOST effective approach towards waking up a JW (IMO) is to let the organization do its damage. Those of us who are currently fading/irregular are in a better position to wake a JW up through our active fellowship. This approach won't work with a high and mighty happy JW. This normally works with the irregulars or JWs who have suffered many injustices. In my experience when their emotional ties to the WT is damaged, it gives you much more room to work with. Of course you have to be tactful and slowly reveal the TTATT because this normally involves risky conversations. So far I have had a 100% success rate with this strategy, but again I also clothe all of my interactions with sincere unconditional love which helps a lot.
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Jw;s like family
by d ini was wondering do you ever miss certain jw's?
i mean not all but just some, becuase even though we may rant and rave against jw's at times.
we have to remeber that for those that were born in the jw's theywere like family.which is why it is so hard at for me to let go completely.. although i have been out for about 5 yrs and it feels good.
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@DesirousOfChange, Yes I totally agree! Excellent post.
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"Strong hope enables us to resist apostates and their gangrenous 'empty speeches.'"
by cedars inthose obviously aren't my words, they are from the latest study edition of the watchtower (april 15th, 2013) page 11.. .
it's nice to know that, not only are we "mentally diseased" - we are also now "gangrenous.
" since the society seems to enjoy using medical terms to insult us, are there any bets what the next published insult will be?
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Emery
I used to wonder how could one book or one conversation with an "apostate" dismantle years of devoted service for a Jehovah's Witness? Is Satan really that powerful? Hundreds/thousands of hours dedicated towards the field ministry, studying Watchtower publications, conventions, and relationships can be immediately destroyed by lies? I remember praying these questions away.
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Jw;s like family
by d ini was wondering do you ever miss certain jw's?
i mean not all but just some, becuase even though we may rant and rave against jw's at times.
we have to remeber that for those that were born in the jw's theywere like family.which is why it is so hard at for me to let go completely.. although i have been out for about 5 yrs and it feels good.
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Certainly, I cherish and love many who are still in the Watchtower and it is especially difficult if you are/were popular in the congregation.
The conditional love reveals itself when you choose to no longer go to the meetings or if you become irregular. I began realizing who my real friends were when I began fading, some who I considered as close as family hardly did anything to help or gain back their "spiritually weak" brother, instead they resorted to negative gossip and avoidance.
This reminds me of something James Penton said during an interview (paraphrasing)
"There were so many friends in the organization that I loved so much, friends who I would have given my life for, but as soon as I left, they turned on me like vipers."
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My Story
by nolongerconfused inwell...where do i start.... i was raised in the truth...always knowing that there was nothing better out there besides the wt...however, recently i have a made a determination to not go "anywhere"...in all of my almost 35 years of being part of this "organization" i can honestly say i never read the bible as i do today...my "personal" study of the bible has more meaning today than it ever did...after reading the bible i have found many inconsistencies in the wt organization...i hold no grudges or hard feelings towards anyone in the organization, including the so called governing body...i just believe that human imperfection has taken it's toll on this organization...however, that is no excuse to act as a false prophet or assume things that only belong jehovah and his son...the bible is the truth, and jesus said such truth will set us free...i served as a pioneer all of my youth, and served as a ms...as of today i don't partake in that kind of manmade "service"... i'm truly against monthly time reports, special titles of service, asking for donations, judicial committees, among other things...some people may ask why?...well, none of these things are biblical!...some have told me, well the gb is now the faithful and discreet slave...and i say, as determined by who?...nowhere in my personal reading of the bible does it say that there was or there would ever be a gb...this group of men was self appointed...anything self appointed or self made up is definitely not discreet or faithful...jesus never ever appointed such a group.... a family member of mine passed away 2 years ago...he was never a "witness"...but i did preach to him once in a while so he "knew" about god...he just never wanted to be part of this organization...yet, when he passed away i was told repeatedly by the brothers and resurrection publications that i will see him in paradise... i thought to myself, but jehovah is the only one that determines or says who will resurrect (weather heavenly or earth)...i always thought...we as men are nobody to classify or determine that being part of a certain "organization" is the only way to salvation...jesus never said such thing...yet some may say that jehovah has always used an organization giving an moses and the israelite "organization" as an example...but then i say, well jesus is the end of the old covenant...we don't need an organization to be our mediator between us and the true god...jesus is the only mediator.... i could just say so many other things, but i felt like sharing this with all of you...as i cannot share this with any family members or brothers since i would be considered an apostate...i truly believe god is the only judge and i will hold myself accountable to him and no one else.... thanks for reading.... .
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Welcome! What they dont understand is that Christianity was very diverse in the 1st century and there was no authoritative structure running the show.
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The BEST way to "wake up" a JW
by Phizzy inwe have debated this over many years and in many threads, as all of us have family and/or former friends still in.
it seems that there is no "best" way to wake up a jw, it is as elusive as the "true" religion it seems.. but a comment made by poster "emery" on another thread stood out to me, he/she said :.
"what i have gathered is that most witnesses seem to be in it for emotional reasons.
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Emery
Im glad we are back to this topic :)
Yes I believe there are many other reasons obviously for JWs to wake up, but the most common reason I feel is the emotional aspect.
Ding pointed out something that has helped me lead family out, "listening".
If you happen to be an active witness or fader, look for those in the congregation who are depressed or visibly unhappy. They need to vent and when you get them talking you will see how easy it is to counter that emotional tie with unconditional love.
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What happens if you do something bad when in the paradise
by God_Delusion inhi guys,.
when i was younger and my mother was studying with me, she told me the following:.
"jaymes, after armageddon, satan and his demons will be locked away and we'll have 1,000 years to make the earth a paradise.
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Emery
a large random Orca will eat you.
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Why are Witnesses so effective?
by Apognophos ini'm sure some of you chuckled when you read the topic, or wondered if this was sarcasm, but i'm being serious.
yes, witnesses number less than one in a thousand, but that's still millions of people.
people like you and me!
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Emery
I'll give it a shot.
- They normally recruit and covert the biblically ignorant. Bible believing persons who do not know the context of the scriptures being read to them, or the variety of alternative interpretations you can receive from reading ambigious scriptures. They sell certainty with a black and white mentality.
- The instant friends you make and networking when you join. They love bomb you and turn you into a local celebrity.
- Many people feel like they need to be a part of something, you see it all over the world; fraternities, sororities, church, etc.
What I have gathered is that most witnesses seem to be in it for emotional reasons. When presented logical irrefutible evidence of the Watchtower's dishonesty and hypocrisy, no matter how persuasive the argument, it does nothing. Thats why it takes an emotional ass kicking to start waking up.