so my wife is aware that i am totally disillusioned and i am having problems with lots of things.
one day she can see the crap(such as this past watchtower question from readers about ivf... what a pile of insanity.
if someone carries me and my wifes baby i have committed porneia rofl!!!
haha thats great, "Just do what they tell you"
I used the example of Captain Planet in my last explanation to some JWs on the new FDS light, (yes an apostate having to explain correct new doctrine to active JWs) their eyes got large when I used an easier and more understanding illustration. When the 8 gather and their powers combine, they create the Faithful Slave.
im not talking about simply being reinstated.
i remember hearing a story about a brother that was disfellowshipped because of the testimony of two false witnesses.
years passed before they admitted to lying about the brother and was reinstated.. what is policy in this sort of situation?
Happened to an elder at my hall, he was having an emotional with some lady, he was disfellowshipped without the elders following the proper procedures. I later found out they had no evidence and basically went about it based on hearsay from his wife. He was DF'd then active in about 1 month. Everyone still avoided the guy and his wife divorced him.
i've just been watching a youtube video that reveals the new assembly hall in orangeburg, sc.. two things struck me when watching it.... firstly, everything is attributed to jehovah, right down to deciding the location where the hall is to be built.
"we examined over 300 properties," said one interviewee, "we were reminded that jehovah knew where the site was, we just had to keep looking and show him that we were persistent.
" other workers interviewed throughout the video attribute everything to god, as though it is impossible to build anything without divine direction.. here is the video.... .
Basically, I know about 80% of the people shown in the video, especially the interviewees and the narrator. Everyone participated in this build because it replaces field service and meeting attendence as sacred service to Jehovah. Kingdom halls have been functioning at 40% attendence all year long, no exaggeration. About everyone in my circuit has mentioned the amount of meetings they have missed to help build Jehovah's temple of worship. It's a common theme and excuse to miss meetings, its become kind of the inside joke around South Carolina, "oh yeah I was at orangeburg this weekend". Now they are having multiple local needs talks regarding meeting attendence now that the build is over with.
regarding the governing bodys new light relative to matthew 24:45-47, anointedjw.org recently said the following:.
this new light certainly poses a problem for the governing body.
perhaps this is another reason why they have not yet published a sober and scriptural xplanation of this new light.
Phizzy great observation, " "Listen to and Obey" the Evil Slave ? (that concept, of obedience, isn't in the parable either)"
so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.
my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.
they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.
Awesome, congrats!
This actually happened in my case with my mother, father, and sister. I didn't come across in an attacking way, I told them I can no longer believe it anymore and they wanted to know why. They are all out and constantly talk about how refreshing and free they feel.
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i am looking for rebuttals on this statement.
i find it reprehensive when they preach this from the platform, they do not want jws (who are individuals) to have any individuality.
they want people to be their personal robots with no free will.
@LisaRose, excellent post!
as the title suggests, there is a young man studying the bible teach book and attending meetings.
at every meeting that he has attended, there have been some really cultish comments.
of course i hear them loud and clear now, and for years then were coming through, that is why i woke up.. anyway, at the meeting i was sitting there, hating it, listening to all the emotion comments from the audience.
Gayle, that is an awesome idea. Using others who are out and have nothing to lose to communicate or set up an encounter is an excellent approach. Of course selling the encounter as a random coincidence might not always come across as geniune.
well here it is, my first post!
it feels like a huge step like the point of no return.
i am a born in, still in wanting to get out ms. i have refused eldership, used to pioneer and have sooo many stories.
Welcome awakening!
We all find it amazing how so many are leaving at this time, especially people in prominent positions at their halls. The journey is amazing, but it will have its bad times as you'll see much of your social investment go to waste when you begin your fade. What I would recommend is if you plan on trying to take the path of least resistance while fading, you need to first speak with your elders and notify them that you are finding it difficult to perform your duties as an MS and that mentally you cannot handle it anymore. Using depression goes a long way in the organization to allievate suspicion. Do not do anything in haste, the most important part is that you're already mentally free.
Eliminating yourself from social networking helps a lot! If you find yourself on multiple social networking sites where all your friends are mostly Jdubs like on twitter, facebook, etc. get off of these asap. Shutting those things down will help you stay out of sight and out of mind for many witnesses. (creating a new one and blocking all the jdub friends helps too)
At some point down the road ask to be taken off TMS if you can help it (moving to another hall helps eliminate this request).
Moving away to a sister congregation or another congregation where people do not really know you. Moving to foreign language congregations really does take you off the grid with all or current witnesses in your social circle, its not like they are going to know your activies, or schedule with the Korean congregation.
Planning many activities that will be fun for you and your wife does help take attention away from the JW routine, i.e; vacations, cruise, road trips, dinners, concerts, etc. Its a win win, and by your actions constantly assure your wife of your unconditional love.
Of course I could keep going on with this but ill let others chime in too, welcome!
i have been wondering if persons here have ever worked the same territories jws work to create awareness to house holders?
for instance, producing custom pamplets or tracts discussing the culture and demands of being a jehovahs witness.
the doctrines and history explained in a fatual manner so that people can weigh the pros and the cons prior to accepting a bible study?
I have been wondering if persons here have ever worked the same territories JWs work to create awareness to house holders? For instance, producing custom pamplets or tracts discussing the culture and demands of being a Jehovahs Witness. The doctrines and history explained in a fatual manner so that people can weigh the pros and the cons prior to accepting a bible study? I was also wondering if this is also a legal practice or can the WTS come after you for defamation?
