The WT assumes that Joseph was not shagging the other servants. There was never a law against a single man having sex with slaves. The account specificalls says that Joseph told Potiphars wife "my master has not witheld ANYTHING from me EXCEPT you" that tells me that he was having sex with whoever else, remember there was not then, nor under the future mosaic law anything prohibiting a married or unmarried man from shagging an unmarried woman. I see no reason to believe Joseph abstained from sexual pleasures. There is certainly nothing in the story indicating he did. Male virginity was not prized in that time or location. He simply did not want to get involved with his bosses wife, probably for several reasons.
Posts by BU2B
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22all you guys,are you A Joseph? Day after day she beg you to lie with her.
by jam injoseph was a young handsome and good -looking.. he wasn,t married, his boss wife is all over him.. each day, joseph please lie with me.. ok here is the wife of the boss, you dam if.
do and dam if you don,t.
we know what happen.
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But they are only 8 imperfect men!!!
by notsurewheretogo ini'm fed up of my still-in wife using this excuse that they can utter wrong beliefs and doctrines.. .
the fact that there are imperfect humans involved in the organisation is very much irrelevant.. .
we all accept, including jdubs, that these men are just men who may think and say wrong things like the rest of us as they go about their own lives.
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BU2B
If someone says, "they are imperfect and make mistakes, but they are who Jehovah is using" you could say "Aaron was who Jehovah was using when he built a golden calf. Would you have bowed down to it and worship it because he told you to?" or "The priesthood in Israel was who Jehovah was using, yet they set up false gods. Would you have been obedient to them because they were the channel? Or are you responsible for your own actions?"
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Elders, apostasy and disfellowshipping issue's - thoughts please
by FeelingFree inok so... when i was talking to my mil about why i no longer wanted to be a witness she kept trying to convience me that i needed to speak to the elders.
i said from the word go i didn't feel the need to as my mind was already made up and no one could change it.
i also said if the elders new all my reasons for leaving they would view me as an apostate and i would get disfellowshipped.
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Daniel1555- You got lucky because as I understand it, all it takes to be apostate is that you BELIEVE anything different than what the GB teaches. Sharing with others is not required. Maybe they didnt have the heart to DF you because you share a different point of view.
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The height of delusion on display at last Tuesdays meeting...
by BU2B ini literally just sat there with my mouth open.
sometimes the delusional mind of jws takes steroids.. it was during the draw close to jehovah study where they praise the mosaic law and how perfectly wonderful it was.
you should have seen the almost giddy attitude the conductor had and the comments from the audience.
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Great points OTWO! If its ok to slaughter everyone from fetuses to the elderly because they are "pagan" why should they care about say..for just one example the genocide in Darfur which mostly "pagan" animist and "so-called" Christians were killed my Muslims? They were merely doing some of the dirty work for Jehovah. Since he "does not desire any to be destroyed", they make his task a bit easier at Armageddon.
It especially sickens me when the JWs or other christian apologists compare the cannanites to vermin. Every barbaric mass genocide has been preceded by propaganda comparing the victims to sub-humans like rats, cockroaches, diseases, cancers, or mad dogs that need to be put down. The same reasoning for killing the kids, that "little rats grow into big rats" is the same reason Hitler killed even the Jewish kids. They would grow into big Jews one day and steal all the money again. For non-psycopathic humans to be able to callously slaughter innocent people they generally need to internalize that their victims "deserve" to die, or are a "threat" of some kind. They must also be viewed as a plauge like pests that need to be "cleansed". Bible apologists scare me.
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The height of delusion on display at last Tuesdays meeting...
by BU2B ini literally just sat there with my mouth open.
sometimes the delusional mind of jws takes steroids.. it was during the draw close to jehovah study where they praise the mosaic law and how perfectly wonderful it was.
you should have seen the almost giddy attitude the conductor had and the comments from the audience.
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BU2B
It is amazing how just when you think you have heard it all, something even more shocking and delusional is said!
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The WT's biggest deception?
by BU2B init just dawned on me that one of if not the most deceptive thing that the wt convinces the members of is that the truth does not stand up to investigation.
they teach that lies trump truth.
the reality of course is something entirely different.
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Yes Stuck in a rut you are correct. I dont care if I am caught anymore. They would be doing me a favor.
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Elder's School: 2015 KMS Program
by pixel ingood morning.
want to attend?.
kingdom ministry school.
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BU2B
I really hope someone records this.. It seems everything revolves around DF/Shunning policies. Can you imagine if that effort was redirected to actually HELPING people, not HURTING them?
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is it possible to raise good kids with out religious morals?
by Princess Ashe inmaking up my mind on how to teach my son values in life seems to be an on going struggle of what is right and wrong.
being raised in a sheltered jw life until after leaving high school seems like going from one extreme to another of being over restrictive or under.
trying to find that balance.
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BU2B
Morals are independent of belief in any entity. If YHWH is a guide to morality, we are all doomed.
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My best friend died yesterday
by TimeBandit insometimes people make special connections to animals.
sometimes they bond very deeply and are real friends.
yesterday was the end of such a friendship that lasted ten wonderful years.
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BU2B
I am sincerely sorry for your loss. I have never had the joy of owning a canine person but I have always wanted to. I believe dogs, along with other creatures feel and are smarter and take in more than we know. I can see it in their eyes. I am so sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with you.
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The WT's biggest deception?
by BU2B init just dawned on me that one of if not the most deceptive thing that the wt convinces the members of is that the truth does not stand up to investigation.
they teach that lies trump truth.
the reality of course is something entirely different.
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BU2B
You are perceptive Phizzy. My wife, parents are very dedicated JWs. I have 2 young girls being raised in it. I struggle with when and what to do. I want us to exit together, but if that does not happen, I hate the thought of my kids being subjected to go to the KH with their mother. The best I can do is provide a alternative way of looking at things and teach them there is nothing wrong with thinking for yourself. I will teach them to be critical thinkers and question authority. I don't know exactly how I will, but I must. I can only hope that when I stop going to the KH, my wife will in time stop too when she sees the lack of love. I will have to stand up and sign them up for after school activities, sports etc.. And let them have non Jw friends. my wife will likely resent me for it, but I have to take a stand sometime. My parents are a lost cause, so yes yoprobably do hear some despair because of my very tough situation. but believe me I have hope too!