What galls me is that ANY negative piece of information about WT that could upset the householder must be a wild unfounded UNTRUE rumor. What if the householder was upset by the recent judgements against the BORG for child abuse? That is not a rumor, nor untrue. JWs have not been prepared to address legitimate grievances a householder may have since most JWs have NOT EVEN HEARD of it! They are so brainwashed they would likely dismiss it as all an apostate lie, even though the court transcripts are available for all! Jws are clueless about their history as well as current scandals and therefore have no real option but to hang their heads and run from a knowledgeable householder.
Posts by BU2B
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29Feb Kingdom Ministry 2015: Irate Householders - why so angry?
by Trailer Park Pioneer infeb kingdom ministry 2015, irate householders, "we don't apologize for our work", "did they hear rumors about jws"?
why so angry?
blood or disfellowshipping?.
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Is shunning effective?
by rebel8 indoes shunning accomplish its objectives:.
make the person repent?.
deter others from committing similar offenses in the future?.
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BU2B
It works as far as information control is concerned, but fails when it comes to their official reasons for it.
They say they have the arrangement to protect the congregation and to restore the sinner to Jehovah.
Shunning helps neither as it only encourages "sinners" to keep their actions hidden at all costs, and since shunning amounts to emotional blackmail, returning "sinners" likely will be returning, not out of a heartfelt desire to restore their relationship with Jehovah, but instead to reunite with family and friends. This leaves the organization filled with insincere faking JWs.
Also, some who see how nasty their former friends and family really can be and how little they care while they are DF can move them to find unconditional friends on the outside and leave the JW life forever.
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Where is Everyone????
by truthlover inmissing a lot of the oldies and goodies -- is this site so new, no one has signed on yet?
i am confused... but then, i will have to wait and see what happens.. somehow - change is not the best option but we adjust..have most of the users gone to other locations?.
tl.
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Hello all! I am back and with a new avatar but im still the same old BU2B -
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An unconfirmed report of a JW Murder in Mozambique
by Slidin Fast ina couple from the uk, international construction volunteers, were living in a trailer whilst building a translation facility in mozambique.
a gang attacked them with machetes and stole everything they owned.
the couple were flown back to the branch in south africa.
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BU2B
So sad. I dont know what else to say. Its always the good ones who go too soon. -
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An unconfirmed report of a JW Murder in Mozambique
by Slidin Fast ina couple from the uk, international construction volunteers, were living in a trailer whilst building a translation facility in mozambique.
a gang attacked them with machetes and stole everything they owned.
the couple were flown back to the branch in south africa.
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BU2B
I cant vouch for the validity of this, but if true it is a terrible tragedy and one can only wonder.. Where was the most powerful force in the universe on that day? Taking its lunch break? -
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anyone seen outlaw ?
by stan livedeath inive not seen him on this new site--or do i need new specs.?
its usually hard to miss the old bugger
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Welcome back outlaw! -
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Please post new forum feedback or questions here
by Simon inwell, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.
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BU2B
Hello again! After many days of not being able to login, I am back live thanks to a password reset email.. Thanks guys! -
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My "Un-Witnessing" Comments for this Upcoming Sunday's Watchtower.
by objectivetruth ini won't be there (fortunately) but perhaps my warm encouragement and hard work, in preparing these comments will help someone, who has the burden of attending the meetings, give a good un-witness.. 3. while on earth, how did jesus follow his fathers example?.
answer - jesus at john 9:4 gave us a very important reminder, he said "we must do the works of the one who sent me while it is day; the night is coming when no man can work.
" the figurative night that jesus was likely referencing was amos 5:18 where it says "woe to those who yearn for the day of jehovah!
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BU2B
I see the "un-witnessing" part of your comments, but unfortunately unless you are more direct it will go over most of their heads. They would congratulate you afterwards about how much research you must have done and how great the comments were.
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Some people called me Santa this weekend ... my wife calls me Satan
by wannabefree inmy mother's church was having a christmas breakfast this past weekend and needed a santa ... i volunteered.. these little ones thought i was the real deal and one is my child.
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when we returned home she went right up to my wife and said ... "mom, santa is real!".
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BU2B
I love your courage and your resiliency being able to stick with your marriage even in your situation. Good for you and your kids. You are a great dad!
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Court Bars Kids From Jehovah's Witness Activities
by Bangalore incourt bars kids from jehovah's witness activities.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/64209712/court-bars-kids-from-jehovahs-witness-activitieshttp://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11375208bangalore.
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BU2B
As messed up as the Family Court system is, even they can see the insanity of not allowing basic, common, healthy activities. We need a resource of quotes which demonize extracurricular activities so we can counter their lying pamphlet given to the JW parent and attorneys to give a false impression to the court. They try to make it clear how normal they are, when they are a filthy cult and a very unhealthy place for children.
I guess I turned out ok, but I have social anxiety and am somewhat awkward in crowds and social occasions. I know this is due to my JW upbringing. So many have memories of going to camp, playing in a band, playing sports, having a good variety of friends, college, partying, dating, and just being a kid/teen/young adult. I have been robbed of that, and I can never get those years back. I got a job at 18, married at 19, kid at 21. I never lived. Im not saying I cant have a happy future, but they robbed me of what could have been prime formative years of my life. I resent that.
Good for this court and Judge. I hope more rulings like it follow here in the states.